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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Is it an issue for you. I like him, but that is a sticking point.
    It isn't for me. He's not a lawyer either. That's two reasons to vote for him.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Close. 40 years ago. However you are still wrong. While most officers are college educated, to say all of them are is simply not true. They still commission many of them from the enlisted ranks if they have the technical, organizational, and leadership skills needed.
    I think you may be thinking of Warrant Officers, for whom a certain portion of college is required. It is, I suppose, possible that a CWO could be made an LDO if the MOS went away, and that then you would have an officer without a degree. But that is a fairly rare occurrence. They no longer battlefield commission.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No in the last few decades. I live very close to an airbase and have at other jobs interfaced with Officers as well as non comms and to get to officer grade you need a college education.
    There are no more battlefield commissions or experienced based commissions.
    That said, even if there were. It would be few and the mass majority of officers are college grads and I think would rather follow the lead of other college grads.
    Sorry, but commissioning enlisted men as officers has not completely gone way. It may be the few, however it still occurs. Yes, the massive majority are college educated, however not all of them are. And some of them satisfy that expectation simply by going to war college. Not that any of this matters. Officers simply do not spend time thinking about the commander in chief's college resume.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think you may be thinking of Warrant Officers, for whom a certain portion of college is required. It is, I suppose, possible that a CWO could be made an LDO if the MOS went away, and that then you would have an officer without a degree. But that is a fairly rare occurrence. They no longer battlefield commission.
    Actually I was not thinking of warrant officers. There are still enlisted men, non-commissioned officers who are promoted to the rank of second lieutenant....etc...and there are still battlefield commissions. I do think that anyone planning to become an officer should seek a college education, however not having one does not mean there is no other way. Some of them are promoted merely based on technical skills.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    As for me, I've never made the assertion that Bush the Elder paid to have his son accepted at either school. If Bush was accepted as a legacy there would have been no need for him to have had his daddy pay to have him accepted. It's fairly obvious he was accepted as a legacy.

    At Harvard, once again Bush's grades and test scores were not at all outstanding, however Bush was accepted. I don't know that his father paid anything for Bush to be accepted into Harvard Business School. It was more likely that the Bush family name and power were more than enough to secure Bush's admission. We can safely assume the Bush was not accepted to Harvard on his own merits.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Actually I was not thinking of warrant officers. There are still enlisted men, non-commissioned officers who are promoted to the rank of second lieutenant....etc...and there are still battlefield commissions.
    Battlefield promotions are limited to enlisted, and they are limited to a one-grade increase, not enlisted-to-officer.

    College is a requirement (by and large) to be an officer.

    I do think that anyone planning to become an officer should seek a college education, however not having one does not mean there is no other way. Some of them are promoted merely based on technical skills.
    Yes- but those are Warrants, who at best can become Limited Duty Officers.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Sorry, but commissioning enlisted men as officers has not completely gone way. It may be the few, however it still occurs.
    Can you cite any recent instances of an enlisted man without college being commissioned as an officer?

    Not that any of this matters. Officers simply do not spend time thinking about the commander in chief's college resume.
    True enough.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    True. That's why he's lost all his recent political battles against minor opposition.
    Are you saying that the (re)election of someone is proof that they understand how to optimize policy?

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I will defer to his electoral success.

    Maybe you should change your S/N then.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Yes, the world is not the simple place it was 100 years ago.

    Leader needs to be able to play chess, not checkers. Ability to understand and optimize policy recommendations from scores of advisors across economics, foreign policy, science, etc ...


    Now to be fair, if he actually showed intellect off the charts and didn't finish college, that would be another story. But since he hasn't..
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    I doubt that the USA has missed out on a Nobel prize because this guy didn't get his PhD.

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