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Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • Send reinforcements and attack ISIS

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Total voters
    41
US Conservative said:
These guys are beheading children and selling women into slavery, in between suicide bombings that is. Its gonna take violence.
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Sometimes, I swear I don't understand some of my countrymen. All we've taken to the Middle East for decades is violence, the Islamic extremism has escalated exponentially, and we still have wing nuts wanting MORE VIOLENCE.
 
Montecresto said:
Sometimes, I swear I don't understand some of my countrymen. All we've taken to the Middle East for decades is violence, the Islamic extremism has escalated exponentially, and we still have wing nuts wanting MORE VIOLENCE.
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As already stated-I dont want violence-thats why ISIS must be eliminated.
 
Why do we have to be the policemen of the world? We already destabilized the region? Now some want us to go in and retry again? How many attempts do you want?
 
Montecresto said:
Yes, I know that's what you've been told. But neither of those countries were threatening the United States, so no. Our military hasn't defended the United States yet.
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I see. A major attack by Japan on U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor, on U.S. territory, out of the blue, was a flagrant act of war that killed more than two thousand American servicemen, destroyed many aircraft and several large warships, and left Hawaii wide open to invasion--and yet that attack did not threaten the United States. Who knew, until you, with your preternatural wisdom about all this, enlightened the rest of us?

By April, 1943, German submarines had come very close to giving Hitler control over the whole Atlantic Ocean, and with that, control over much of the maritime commerce the United States depended on. And if Germany had defeated Britain and Russia--which seemed all too possible from the Fall of 1940 till the end of 1941--it would probably have gone on to develop the atom bomb first. After all, with no foreign threats, we Americans would have felt no need even to try to develop it. A nuclear-armed Nazi Germany could then have established a reign of terror over the whole Western world, including this country.

But Hitler's Germany was never a threat to the United States. Who knew, before you educated us poor saps, whose knowledge of history--and no doubt much more--pales beside your own?

I see you are showing, once again, why you don't deserve to be taken seriously. I don't know who you are, nor do I care, but you seem to be trying to get attention by saying ridiculous things. I think it's probably best, from here on, to let your pap go unanswered.
 
US Conservative said:
As already stated-I dont want violence-thats why ISIS must be eliminated.
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Not going to happen. Should have concerned yourself with this when you were all about supporting the overthrow of Hussein and Mubarak and Gaddafi and Assad. Now your stuck with the results.
 
matchlight said:
I see. A major attack by Japan on U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor, on U.S. territory, out of the blue, was a flagrant act of war that killed more than two thousand American servicemen, destroyed many aircraft and several large warships, and left Hawaii wide open to invasion--and yet that attack did not threaten the United States. Who knew, until you, with your preternatural wisdom about all this, enlightened the rest of us?

By April, 1943, German submarines had come very close to giving Hitler control over the whole Atlantic Ocean, and with that, control over much of the maritime commerce the United States depended on. And if Germany had defeated Britain and Russia--which seemed all too possible from the Fall of 1940 till the end of 1941--it would probably have gone on to develop the atom bomb first. After all, with no foreign threats, we Americans would have felt no need even to try to develop it. A nuclear-armed Nazi Germany could then have established a reign of terror over the whole Western world, including this country.

But Hitler's Germany was never a threat to the United States. Who knew, before you educated us poor saps, whose knowledge of history--and no doubt much more--pales beside your own?

I see you are showing, once again, why you don't deserve to be taken seriously. I don't know who you are, nor do I care, but you seem to be trying to get attention by saying ridiculous things. I think it's probably best, from here on, to let your pap go unanswered.
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It wasn't out of the blue, but then you know that. Economic warfare as well as military patrols provocatively close to Japanese mainland were part of FDR's bag of tricks to illicit an attack reported to the American people as a sucker punch, for no reason whatsoever. Lol.
 
Montecresto said:
Not going to happen. Should have concerned yourself with this when you were all about supporting the overthrow of Hussein and Mubarak and Gaddafi and Assad. Now your stuck with the results.
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Stuck with ISIS? Lolz you wish. Public opinion is swayed. Even dems are calling for intervention. War is coming, in fact we are really already there.
 
US Conservative said:
Stuck with ISIS? Lolz you wish. Public opinion is swayed. Even dems are calling for intervention. War is coming, in fact we are really already there.
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Not a wish dude. Remember, I'm the one who preferred the status quo, when Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad contained such miscreants. You on the other hand are the one itching for a war, and I don't deny you'll be getting it either.
 
Montecresto said:
Yes, I know that's what you've been told. But neither of those countries were threatening the United States, so no. Our military hasn't defended the United States yet.
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Wow, the next bunch of lies. Japan has attacked the United States and both Japan and Germany had declared war on the United States.

I've certainly read of holocaust deniers, but I've never heard of a Pearl Harbor denier before you. Or a war of 1812 denier. Or a Civil War denier.
 
Montecresto said:
Not a wish dude. Remember, I'm the one who preferred the status quo, when Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad contained such miscreants. You on the other hand are the one itching for a war, and I don't deny you'll be getting it either.
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Crouch down and lick your masters hand. I will not walk on eggshells to appease terrorists.
 
Montecresto said:
The military isn't worth a ****. They don't protect us, they go abroad and kill people, destroy property, and make us enemies, they have no value, and the worship that the military receives is vain.
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Wow! I usually follow your posts and you make some good points from time to time, but you are way out of line here. Hopefully you are just having a bad day or are just weary from trying to defend your position. If that is not the case and you really think our military doesn't protect us or fight for us then I have lost all respect for you.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Why do we have to be the policemen of the world? We already destabilized the region? Now some want us to go in and retry again? How many attempts do you want?
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Actually it was Obama who said Iraq was stable, and then he De-stabilized it. The history is all there if you care to look, and far more reliable than guessing.
 
Pull every, single U.S. soldier home as fast as possible.

If other countries (including Iraq/Syria) have a problem, let them fix it themselves (and I could care less about 'treaties' signed by idiots for their own selfish reasons).

And if a country is a direct and immediate threat to America's sovereignty (and I can think of none that are), then declare war, win it and then bring the troops home.
 
I have a novel idea, lets bring our troops home. For good.
 
Dirt Racer said:
Wow! I usually follow your posts and you make some good points from time to time, but you are way out of line here. Hopefully you are just having a bad day or are just weary from trying to defend your position. If that is not the case and you really think our military doesn't protect us or fight for us then I have lost all respect for you.
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Hi DR. Don't know that I've met you before, or ever talked with you, certainly had no idea that you followed my posts or that you once upon a time had respect for any of them. I have articulated my whole position on USFP, and the use of our military in concocted threats, that weren't, or provocations that drew our country into unnecessary wars, wars that Americans had not wanted participation in, in thousands of posts. One mustn't draw conclusions from any one post.
 
Montecresto said:
Hi DR. Don't know that I've met you before, or ever talked with you, certainly had no idea that you followed my posts or that you once upon a time had respect for any of them. I have articulated my whole position on USFP, and the use of our military in concocted threats, that weren't, or provocations that drew our country into unnecessary wars, wars that Americans had not wanted participation in, in thousands of posts. One mustn't draw conclusions from any one post.
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We have never met and I couldn't tell you if we ever interacted on this forum. I just mean to say I read your posts and had always found them to be interesting and intelligent. Up until this most recent post I respected what you had to say. It appears you stand by your earlier post regarding the US Military?
 
Dirt Racer said:
We have never met and I couldn't tell you if we ever interacted on this forum. I just mean to say I read your posts and had always found them to be interesting and intelligent. Up until this most recent post I respected what you had to say. It appears you stand by your earlier post regarding the US Military?
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Well, like I said, you can't make any conclusions from a single post on a subject in which I have thousands of posts on.
 
Grant said:
And that will America safer?
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Or the millions that live in that region of the world?

I love how pretty much all of the statements really boild down to "I do not give a damn who dies where, just so that the US is not involved in any way".
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Lets see here.
The US droop surge peaked in 2007
2007 Iraq was #2 on the failed state index: The Failed States Index 2007 | The Fund for Peace
If more troops lead to stability then it seems your point is gravely mistaken...
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Like I should care about anything the Fund for Peace says?

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Yea, and what have they actually done? How about we parachute all of them into Syria and Iraq and let them talk ISIS to death?

Translation: We really don't do anything but we want you to think we matter.
 
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