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Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • Send reinforcements and attack ISIS

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Total voters
    41
joko104 said:
320 Marines at the massive al-Asad Air Base are being surrounded by ISIS fighters, ISIS having essentially overrun the neighorboring city of al-Baghdadi and the al-Baghdadi district.

There have numerous suicide runs at the base which also has been hit with mortars.

BREAKING: Reports Claim ISIS Just Captured al-Asad Air Base Where 300 U.S. Marines Could Be Trapped (UPDATED) | LibertyNEWS.com

ISIS Fighters Reportedly Seize Parts Of Iraqi Town, Threatening U.S. Marine Base


What should the response of President Obama be?
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Call in Puff the Magic Dragon:


 
Grand Mal said:
There's a mindset that says that any number of civilian casualties is acceptable if it keeps an American troop out of danger. You hear that attitude expressed wherever something offensive is being considered- "If one teenager's life is saved..." "If one accident is prevented..." "If one terrorist is caught..." "If one child is protected from bullying..." "If one soldier is kept out of harms way...", well, anything is justifiable.
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Civilian casualties would be diminished if ISIS wasn't using them as human shields. That a war crime.
 
apdst said:
Civilian casualties would be diminished if ISIS wasn't using them as human shields. That a war crime.
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Yes it is. Is it also permission?
 
JANFU said:
I asked a clear question on carpet bombing- will you answer it or not?
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No, you're posting flame bait, because your desperate. I've already answered the question and you have proven that collateral damage is legal.
 
JANFU said:
The Iraqis are pushing to far and to fast.
No way insurgents should be able to mass around a major base of operations such as this.
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I have my doubts as well. I would imagine if they get too close they will either be wiped out by airstrikes or they will turn the Devil Dogs loose. Either way I don't see ISIS coming out on top.
 
Dirt Racer said:
I have my doubts as well. I would imagine if they get too close they will either be wiped out by airstrikes or they will turn the Devil Dogs loose. Either way I don't see ISIS coming out on top.
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A long war and the ****ty part of street by street is yet to come.
 
joko104 said:
Then it would seem your answer would be no reinforcements are necessary as those 320 Marines equate to 32,000 ISIS fighters.
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Properly supplied. A marine without his rifle is only equal to five enemies.
 
apdst said:
It is, if there's an enemy target to be destroyed.
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What if a bunch of terrorists take a group of American kids hostage? Do you bomb them?
 
JANFU said:
A long war and the ****ty part of street by street is yet to come.
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That's why we should attack them while they're massed and out in the open.
 
apdst said:
That's why we should attack them while they're massed and out in the open.
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I take it you do not skate well? lol
 
apdst said:
That's a stupid comparison.
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Human shields are hostages. In this case they're Syrians but what if they were Americans?
It's not a stupid question- I'm not American so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I'm just wondering why it's different if the hostages are American or Syrian.
 
Thrilla said:
don't let me see you say that again , DevilDog.
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Yes Sir!

Saves time with people who start asking were I am stationed. Since I haven't been stationed anywhere but my house since 1998. lol
 
Grand Mal said:
Human shields are hostages. In this case they're Syrians but what if they were Americans?
It's not a stupid question- I'm not American so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I'm just wondering why it's different if the hostages are American or Syrian.
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Human shields aren't necessarily hostages.

What if it was your ass out there? I bet you wouldn't care who got blowed up. But, we all know that'll never be the case. Don't we?
 
Dirt Racer said:
I am a former Marine.
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A target rich environment, being surrounded.
A tad of history for those not aware of the Marine Corp history.
Older than the US.
 
JANFU said:
A target rich environment, being surrounded.
A tad of history for those not aware of the Marine Corp history.
Older than the US.
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I agree that might be their mindset, but it would also be like shoving your hand into a bag of poisonous snakes.

Marines also have a history of making mince meat of enemies. Backing away from fights was not covered in my green monster.
 
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