View Poll Results: What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

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  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

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  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

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  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

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  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

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Thread: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    What should the president do?

    Like a good little lamb, Obama needs to shut the **** up and step back and let people who are vested in our military efforts and know a thing or two about it make decisions. The less he does, the better. He's a spineless fish of a dickweed who spites our men in uniform and never considers that maybe making decisions about military tactics is above his paygrade.

    Give him a camera - let him take some more selfies and just get the **** out of the way if he's not going to be impeached like he should be.
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    um.... damn....
    Indeeed. umm Damn!
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I don't think we have anything "in the making". The news report that the OP mentioned was days ago, and it is as fake today as it was then.
    This is from five hours ago but if you have any evidence that it was fake do you have a link? Op-Ed: Islamic State captures town near base with 300 U.S. marines

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is from five hours ago but if you have any evidence that it was fake do you have a link? Op-Ed: Islamic State captures town near base with 300 U.S. marines
    It's talking about reports from Fri and Sat, the same ones that have been repeated over and over again. Today is Tuesday. That article might have been published just five hours ago, but it's not reporting anything that happened just five hours ago. It's not reporting anything that is new at all.

    The article also says:

    "At no time were U.S. troops anywhere near the fighting," Rear Adm. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters Friday. "They might have heard shots being fired, but that would have been about it.

    Read more: Op-Ed: Islamic State captures town near base with 300 U.S. marines
    I feel that the original "Marines are surrounded" article being referred to in the OP is pretty much fake in that it was a vast exageration, and I couldn't find any creditable news story that colaborates that any marines were actually surrounded.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    It's talking about reports from Fri and Sat, the same ones that have been repeated over and over again. Today is Tuesday. The article also says: I feel that the original "Marines are surrounded" article being referred to in the OP is pretty much fake in that it was a vast exageration, and I couldn't find any creditable news story that colaborates that any marines were actually surrounded.
    So is it the term 'surrounded" that you find fake or the idea that these troops are in any sort of danger?

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Really? I didn't know this was a street or bar fight. Get on planes, leave. Pretty simple. Secure our borders...........oh wait we cant do that.
    Yes, I understand your view is when a foreign power declares war on the USA and attacks Americans we should immediately run away ASAP.

    I imagine you figure you can barricade yourself in your house (or mobile home) with your AR15 and hold off all comers. They're already across our borders nor can our massive borders be secured against infiltration by military enemies.

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So is it the term 'surrounded" that you find fake or the idea that these troops are in any sort of danger?
    Both.

    I think that any danger to US troops may be highly exagerated. Not that there isn't any danger, there always is, but it's not at all likely that this base will be taken over by ISIS, not anytime soon anyway. The reports I read about that little town being taken over by ISIS indicate that it was just a few hundred ISIS fighters. If there are 320 marines at that base, and if their purpose is to train Iraqi troops, then I would have to assume that there are many more Iraqi troops stationed there than marines, so combining Iraqi troops with US marines, we might have two thousand or more forces there, with air support. I can't see ISIS abandoning that town to try to take over an air base that they have no chance of taking over.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We are discussion our Marines here , NOT you and I .. The Marines are special, and merit more support....
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    I don't think they're gonna be bested, I'd just like for them to pulled out of this situation as cleanly as possible.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    We have 300+ American troops with air support, plus hundreds or maybe even thousands of Iraqi troops at that base. The reports that I read indicate there were less than 400 ISIS fighters who took over that neighboring town. So even if all the ISIS fighters in that down attacked the base, ISIS would be pathetically outnumbered and outgunned. And I don't see them abandoning the town at all.
    Again, I don't think our men are gonna get bested by ISIS, I just want to them pulled out of this situation as cleanly as possible.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or do we have another Benghazi in the making?
    I hope not.

    I doubt anything like that will happen.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Both.

    I think that any danger to US troops may be highly exagerated. Not that there isn't any danger, there always is, but it's not at all likely that this base will be taken over by ISIS, not anytime soon anyway. The reports I read about that little town being taken over by ISIS indicate that it was just a few hundred ISIS fighters. If there are 320 marines at that base, and if their purpose is to train Iraqi troops, then I would have to assume that there are many more Iraqi troops stationed there than marines, so combining Iraqi troops with US marines, we might have two thousand or more forces there, with air support. I can't see ISIS abandoning that town to try to take over an air base that they have no chance of taking over.
    Would have the same optimism if you were President or would you act now?

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