View Poll Results: What should President do about Marines surrounded at Al-Asad Air Base?

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  • Order those US Marine flee like in Yemen

    78 19.90%
  • Have those Marines surrender to ISIS forces

    78 19.90%
  • Have those Marines stay and fight it out on their own

    78 19.90%
  • Send reinforcements and stand their ground

    79 20.15%
  • Send reinforcements and attack ISIS

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Thread: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    ISIS pisses me off just as much as it pissed people like apdst off, but American ground forces will not be particularly effective against an enemy that we can't identify, and which doesn't conduct themselves by any particular rules of engagement, and which may or may not even be in uniform. No point in fighting a war we can't win.

    I totally get the emotional response to ISIS, but I really don't get those who insist that it's the responsibility of the US to fight someone else's battle. I suspect for some reason, people like adpst can't imagine the scenario that our ground troops would be in. Do they really thing that ISIS will just amass in a large formation that we can wipe out? Or do they think we can go door to door asking people: "are you ISIS"?
    Agreed, and I think its safe to say that were all pissed at the Islamic State. But I'm more pissed at the stupid policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad who contained these miscreants.

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry, this genies not going back in the bottle, unfortunately.
    Its possible to put any genie back in the bottle. In Japan's history, she's only been conquered one time. Want to guess who did it and when?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Its possible to put any genie back in the bottle. In Japan's history, she's only been conquered one time. Want to guess who did it and when?
    Sorry, but this genies not going back in the bottle.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry, but this genies not going back in the bottle.
    What are you saying, ISIS is going to rule the world?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are you saying, ISIS is going to rule the world?
    Quite an extrapolation apdst.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Agreed, and I think its safe to say that were all pissed at the Islamic State. But I'm more pissed at the stupid policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad who contained these miscreants.

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    That'd be Obama's and Hillary's foreign policies and actions in action, at least partially, wouldn't it?

    Didn't have to force Gaddafi out of power, he was already giving up all the chemical weapons at the time, wasn't he?
    Didn't have to 'draw a red line' in the sand with Syria, did he?
    Didn't achieve a SoF with Iraq now, did he?

    First not so much caused ISIS to raise, but the second and third for sure.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    So these 320 Marines that are now facing repeated perimeter incursions in miss-uniformed ISIS fighters, suicide bombers, and nightly mortar shelling, are effectively under siege. Repeat of Ka-san anyone?

    Is the administration going to support these Marines and their defense? Or is the administration going to leave them to hang out to dry?
    (I guess the real question here is what's the most politically expedient to the administration - guess they don't think that Marines count for much)

    Some are asserting that there should be a continuous A-10 CAP during daylight hours, killing anything that moves in a 3 mile radius of the perimeter, and nightly AC-130 gunships during nighttime hours doing the same.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Putting a cannon on the side of a plane is so #murica.
    Check your spell checker.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Evac and destroy it.
    No, because ISIS will never use it. We may need it back later.
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    Re: Marines being surrounded in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, because ISIS will never use it. We may need it back later.
    Not if we are smart. It time we turned our back on that part of the world. We have done all we can. All we should.

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