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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Only if you think it is important to correctly identify the enemy. (/irony)

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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    I voted "yes", but that was assuming that their terrorist acts are connected to their religion. As it perhaps is, in most cases. When someone commits an act of terrorism in the name of an islamist organization, of course his religion matters.

    But assuming there is a case a person who happens to be Muslim participates in a terrorist act with an entirely unrelated agenda -- say, for animal protection, or for communism --, then I don't think his religion matters. It would only result in false conclusions if his religion was emphasized, in that case.
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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I voted "yes", but that was assuming that their terrorist acts are connected to their religion. As it perhaps is, in most cases. When someone commits an act of terrorism in the name of an islamist organization, of course his religion matters.

    But assuming there is a case a person who happens to be Muslim participates in a terrorist act with an entirely unrelated agenda -- say, for animal protection, or for communism --, then I don't think his religion matters. It would only result in false conclusions if his religion was emphasized, in that case.
    That's fair, someone happening to be a member of a certain religion committing horrible acts is different than someone committing those acts in the name of that religion.

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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I voted "yes", but that was assuming that their terrorist acts are connected to their religion. As it perhaps is, in most cases. When someone commits an act of terrorism in the name of an islamist organization, of course his religion matters.

    But assuming there is a case a person who happens to be Muslim participates in a terrorist act with an entirely unrelated agenda -- say, for animal protection, or for communism --, then I don't think his religion matters. It would only result in false conclusions if his religion was emphasized, in that case.
    And that is a point that many on this forum have been missing in concerns to individuals who happened to be Christian committing atrocities in the last few hundred years. Well said.

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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Was Timothy McVeigh Muslim or Islamic?
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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    They're Terrorists, period. Insert whatever you want in front of the word Terrorist, it doesns't make them any more/less evil in my eyes.

    Terrorists aim to create fear for a religious, political, or ideological goal, and they deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants. Deliberately targeting, killing and injuring civilians is wrong. No excuses, no matter who they are or what beliefs they hold or excuses they attempt to use to justify the unjustifiable. I don't consider one group of terrorists more evil than the other. Probably because i view all civilian lives as equal and worth grieving over.
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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Terrorists.
    Al Qaeda = Freedom Fighters. Backed by maybe as much as one billion dollars by the US, trained in part by the US and favored by the US when Afghanistan was at war with the Russians they were our new bestest friends.

    Al Qaeda = Terrorists. Russians defeated, Al Qaeda turned its wealth, experience and organization on Muslim nations and then the west.

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    I would agree. Scum of the earth. Because they are Muslim? No.










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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    They're Terrorists, period. Insert whatever you want in front of the word Terrorist, it doesns't make them any more/less evil in my eyes.

    Terrorists aim to create fear for a religious, political, or ideological goal, and they deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants. Deliberately targeting, killing and injuring civilians is wrong. No excuses, no matter who they are or what beliefs they hold or excuses they attempt to use to justify the unjustifiable. I don't consider one group of terrorists more evil than the other. Probably because i view all civilian lives as equal and worth grieving over.
    I totally agree with you.

    But in order to address the larger problem -- and if that's just identifying and prosecuting the respective terrorist group --, you need to know what kind of terrorism that is. I don't see that specifying the kind of terrorism somehow suggests it's more or less evil than another terrorist act, or that it's more or less justified. It only helps, and is a requirement, to understand the problem better.
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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Was Timothy McVeigh Muslim or Islamic?
    No, so in that case it would be inaccurate. I assume everyone here is sharp enough to figure out that it should only be applied where it's accurate.

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    Re: Is it important that terrorists be identified as either Muslim or Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    And that is a point that many on this forum have been missing in concerns to individuals who happened to be Christian committing atrocities in the last few hundred years. Well said.
    It just gets tricky in some cases. Say, you have a terror group somewhere in the Muslim World that fights for national independence, but also supports Muslim views. Is this secessionist or islamist terrorism then? You really have to know a lot about the exact motivation and demands of that group then, to answer that question. Even a terror group that's Muslim doesn't necessarily need to be islamist.

    And yes, I noticed that some militant opponents of religion sometimes blame entire religions for the actions committed by members of that religion, regardless which role religion really played in their motivation.
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