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Thread: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you have no clue about Democratic platforms?
    apparently, neither do you, proving unable to articulate what hillary's platform would be and then after insisting her's would be the demo platform, being unable to describe what it advocates

    I am not a civics teacher.
    your posts are making that abundantly clear

    Instead of pontificating about how different Jeb is from his brother. How about some examples? I don't see anything of note myself.

    Jeb Bush - Profile - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies
    let's examine an example of profound stupidity from that cite:
    No Republican will enjoy credibility as a deficit hawk unless he or she acknowledges that George W. Bush squandered the budget surplus he inherited. No Republican will be able to promise foreign-policy competence unless he or she acknowledges the Bush administration's disastrous mismanagement in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    why could a republican candidate not campaign as a deficit hawk without acknowledging that dubya squandered the deficit neutral budget he inherited? why could jeb not campaign as an interventionist rather than an isolationist without also affirming that his brother's ME campaigns were flawed. he can point to successes by both his father and his brother relative to the military action in iraq

    but you want us to pull for hillary even tho you have no idea what she stands for but insist she will run on the demo platform (whatever that might be)
    sorry, i do not give my allegiance to any political party
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The husband was pretty broke up about it all. Sure did look like he had somebodies best interest at heart.

    The problem schmoblem. You couldnt give half a **** and neither will anyone else about this. I expect two years of you, Pete, and people just like you to wring your hands over every prominent GOP candidate. Oh LAWS...he jaywalked once...HOW on EARTH can you trust him? Once he tipped 19% instead of 20%...he hates the workers. Meanwhile you will bob and swallow anything about whatever democrat ends up being the party candidate. Its going to be a fun 2 years.
    I vote Republican more often than I do Democrat in state and local elections where I live and wrote a campaign check to the Huntsman campaign the day he announced he was running in 2012. However, I am not a fan of socially conservative candidates because they authoritarian by nature and I don't like candidates that placate the religious right.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    apparently, neither do you, proving unable to articulate what hillary's platform would be and then after insisting her's would be the demo platform, being unable to describe what it advocates


    your posts are making that abundantly clear


    let's examine an example of profound stupidity from that cite:

    why could a republican candidate not campaign as a deficit hawk without acknowledging that dubya squandered the deficit neutral budget he inherited? why could jeb not campaign as an interventionist rather than an isolationist without also affirming that his brother's ME campaigns were flawed. he can point to successes by both his father and his brother relative to the military action in iraq

    but you want us to pull for hillary even tho you have no idea what she stands for but insist she will run on the demo platform (whatever that might be)
    sorry, i do not give my allegiance to any political party
    What your post have made abundantly clear is that being a curmudgeon is a popular persona on DP. You don't stand for anything and dislike those that do. You couldn't find a single difference between Jeb and GW either. They are like peas in a pod, just like I thought.


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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What your post have made abundantly clear is that being a curmudgeon is a popular persona on DP. You don't stand for anything and dislike those that do. You couldn't find a single difference between Jeb and GW either. They are like peas in a pod, just like I thought.

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    oh hell yes
    i stand for a lot of things
    among them:
    the national anthem
    while sitting and seeing approaching ladies prior to shaking hands
    and great performances

    i also stand for voting for the best candidate
    and between jeb and hillary, hillary ain't it
    despite multiple opportunities to convince me otherwise, you have proven unable to do so

    and i don't care enough about you to dislike you; however, your inability to defend your position that began this debate has certainly proven to be a disappointing display of 'advocacy'
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I vote Republican more often than I do Democrat in state and local elections where I live and wrote a campaign check to the Huntsman campaign the day he announced he was running in 2012. However, I am not a fan of socially conservative candidates because they authoritarian by nature and I don't like candidates that placate the religious right.
    One of Bushes greatest risks to the GOP is that he is socially liberal. Face it...this is simply a bull**** 'cause'. And theres going to be a whooooooole lot more of them. Meanwhile...the guy currently occupying the WH has expanded greatly the 'authoritarian' powers of the fed and that ruckus we are hearing about rejecting of 'authoritarianism'? Yeah...its nonexistent.

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    [emphasis added by bubba]

    oh hell yes
    i stand for a lot of things
    among them:
    the national anthem
    while sitting and seeing approaching ladies prior to shaking hands
    and great performances

    i also stand for voting for the best candidate
    and between jeb and hillary, hillary ain't it
    despite multiple opportunities to convince me otherwise, you have proven unable to do so

    and i don't care enough about you to dislike you; however, your inability to defend your position that began this debate has certainly proven to be a disappointing display of 'advocacy'
    I can't help it if you consider GW Bush the sequel to be preferable to another Clinton Whitehouse. I noticed you don't need to ask what Jeb stands for because we already lived it for 8 long years from 2000 to 2008. Either you have a poor memory or you are among the 22% who still approved of GW when he left office. Either way you are hopeless.... almost as hopeless as Jeb's chances at winning the Whitehouse
    Last edited by iguanaman; 02-16-15 at 09:29 PM.

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    One of Bushes greatest risks to the GOP is that he is socially liberal. Face it...this is simply a bull**** 'cause'. And theres going to be a whooooooole lot more of them. Meanwhile...the guy currently occupying the WH has expanded greatly the 'authoritarian' powers of the fed and that ruckus we are hearing about rejecting of 'authoritarianism'? Yeah...its nonexistent.
    Jeb's a compassionate conservative just like his brother. In fact he is impossible to tell from GW in everything from immigration reform, pandering to evangelists to his neocon foreign policy. So what's not to like?

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    One of Bushes greatest risks to the GOP is that he is socially liberal. Face it...this is simply a bull**** 'cause'. And theres going to be a whooooooole lot more of them. Meanwhile...the guy currently occupying the WH has expanded greatly the 'authoritarian' powers of the fed and that ruckus we are hearing about rejecting of 'authoritarianism'? Yeah...its nonexistent.
    What is Jeb socially liberal on? He is strongly pro-life. He is anti-same sex marriage. Hell back when he first ran for governor he said LGBT protections were "tantamount to elevating sodomy." He is pro war on drugs. He is anti-hate crimes. The only social issue you can describe him as even moderate on is immigration. Jeb is the kind of Republican that is fairly moderate in his tone but is just as conservative on social issues as the typical Republican is.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    no law authorized Jeb to intervene in any way until the Florida appeals court ordered the case closed and the feeding tube removed, in the span of one day the Florida legislature passed a law giving Jeb the right to intervene, and the next day Florida state troopers were pulling what had previously been Terri Shaivo out of the hospice and took her to another hospital to have the tube reinserted.

    it was a law created at his request for a specific cause celebe.
    The fact that a strong supporter of Jeb's has to deny that Jeb led the effort to keep Schiavo alive suggests that Jeb's actual role could be a problem for him.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What is Jeb socially liberal on? He is strongly pro-life. He is anti-same sex marriage. Hell back when he first ran for governor he said LGBT protections were "tantamount to elevating sodomy." He is pro war on drugs. He is anti-hate crimes. The only social issue you can describe him as even moderate on is immigration. Jeb is the kind of Republican that is fairly moderate in his tone but is just as conservative on social issues as the typical Republican is.
    It demonstrates the problem the modern GOP has. Jeb is perceived as a "liberal" Republican (ie RINO) simply because he doesn't compare homosexuals to pedophiles and immigrants to rabid disease infected animals. If a republican doesn't make wingnutty comments on a regular basis, they lose the "base" and if they do, they lose everyone else.
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