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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry, by one foul swoop, or state by state, I don't want illegals getting drivers licenses. That's the most overt tempt I've ever seen from you to diminish the results of a right winger doing the same thing as a left winger. And this guy could be Americas next president, and he favours giving illegals drivers licenses. Colossal fail CJ!
    Sorry to disappoint you - I wasn't speaking to the actual policy decision as much as I was speaking to the circumstances. There are many things that a State Governor may do at the behest of his constituents that wouldn't translate to the Federal level.

    It's also no secret that Jeb Bush is far more "moderate" when it comes to finding solutions for the "illegals" problem in the US than many in his party are. You see, people like Jeb Bush and his brother, who have been Governors of States like Florida and Texas, have a keen understanding of the illegals issues in their states. GW tried unsuccessfully to find a solution when President and I'm sure Jeb will also try to find a solution when he's President.

    It's a very contentious issue and anyone who attempts to address it is going to uncover new enemies regardless of what side he/she takes. But it's an issue that's not going to solve itself.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    All anyone in politics can ask for is a fair hearing, the closer to the voters the better. Filtered through the media, you have a hard time picking out what's real and what's not. I know he's not polling at the top in NH yet, but I think the Bush team has a lot of faithful campaign volunteers there from past runs and I think the Romney people will for the most part side with Bush so once things get rolling I'm hopeful he'll do well. If he happens to win NH, he might just roll - I doubt he can win Iowa, so someone is going to get attention out of Iowa other than him.

    Will be fun - at least on the Republican side there are some serious, sane, competent choices to make it interesting.
    Yeah, Iowa to be is as interesting as New Hampshire, but for a very different reason. In Iowa the religious right and far right candidates seem to fare really well. In New Hampshire, they don't. In the first 2 big Republican primary events, the "bases" show themselves in full force. Iowa's results tend not to stick long though, whereas NH makes a difference (except for Bush/McCain in 2000).

    It will be very interesting and as always, I really can't wait to meet all of the candidates.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry to disappoint you - I wasn't speaking to the actual policy decision as much as I was speaking to the circumstances. There are many things that a State Governor may do at the behest of his constituents that wouldn't translate to the Federal level.
    Like a healthcare plan *cough cough*.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry to disappoint you - I wasn't speaking to the actual policy decision as much as I was speaking to the circumstances. There are many things that a State Governor may do at the behest of his constituents that wouldn't translate to the Federal level.

    It's also no secret that Jeb Bush is far more "moderate" when it comes to finding solutions for the "illegals" problem in the US than many in his party are. You see, people like Jeb Bush and his brother, who have been Governors of States like Florida and Texas, have a keen understanding of the illegals issues in their states. GW tried unsuccessfully to find a solution when President and I'm sure Jeb will also try to find a solution when he's President.

    It's a very contentious issue and anyone who attempts to address it is going to uncover new enemies regardless of what side he/she takes. But it's an issue that's not going to solve itself.
    Yes, his solution will be drivers licenses for illegals, colossal fail.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've only voted for an establishment candidate once. And I regret that. It would tickle me to see the independents, who out number either party alone, join together and elect an independent candidate and force the elephant and the ass to set one out and see if that didn't get their attention. Seriously, I can't believe that there aren't more people that would like to see that play.
    At the risk of getting too off topic....do you have any independents in mind?
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, his solution will be drivers licenses for illegals, colossal fail.
    That depends on a few things. He pushed for it in Florida (a state with a lot of illegals) 11 years ago. What's his stance on it now? And can the President make it a law without having to go through the lawmakers in DC?
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think you and Grant are to the right of the right most American poster at DP. Are there many of you guys up there?
    I don't know that I'm to the right of many people who call themselves conservatives on DP. I'm a Canadian conservative - we're fiscally conservative and socially liberal or more accurately libertarian. We have an old saying - "keep the government out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms". We also believe strongly in personal responsibility, and so we believe strongly in personal choice or to use an American term, we're pro-choice - but not solely in the abortion sense. We generally believe in people having the freedom to make their own life choices, even if we hate those choices.

    I could argue that there are many on the left and right who are far more socially dictatorial than I am and who are less receptive to free choice unless it is the choice they favour.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Like a healthcare plan *cough cough*.
    That's an exceptionally good example.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know that I'm to the right of many people who call themselves conservatives on DP. I'm a Canadian conservative - we're fiscally conservative and socially liberal or more accurately libertarian. We have an old saying - "keep the government out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms". We also believe strongly in personal responsibility, and so we believe strongly in personal choice or to use an American term, we're pro-choice - but not solely in the abortion sense. We generally believe in people having the freedom to make their own life choices, even if we hate those choices.

    I could argue that there are many on the left and right who are far more socially dictatorial than I am and who are less receptive to free choice unless it is the choice they favour.
    See bold:

    I believe that IS mainstream Canada, whether we vote Conservative today or Liberal tomorrow. The NDP is not mainstream, but a collection of special interests groups in growing conflict with each other; the NDP was routed here two years ago because the leader announced the banning of a controversial pipeline, forgetting that his base is largely unionized roughnecks who want work.

    Increasingly we will see that breaking down and leaving them more splintered. Nationally the 'free enterprise" parties have always prevailed, they will be severely reduced next year.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Jeb would be a formidable candidate.
    He's the best the GOP has no doubt. His last name will doom him though. His mom was right the first time.

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