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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I was not aware that Jeb Bush endorsed this! It's still not right, no matter who does it! They are here illegally, which means they broke our immigration laws, Monte! How are they "stuck in immigration limbo" as claimed by Garcia? You did note that he included "and get insurance," didn't you? Nothing has prevented them from working to become citizens prior to this, except their decision not to bother with that detail. This is only pandering from both sides for political reasons to get votes, IMO, not to mention the revenue they hope to gain. This Country has always welcomed legal immigrants, and that's good. Why should any of our laws have to be changed to accommodate illegals?
    Now there's something that could legitimately hurt him with people who would consider voting for him. Although that was 11 years ago, and I can't remember if illegals were being discussed with the frequency they're discussed today....
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh no, I think you misunderstand my position. I'm not the one that thinks that there stuck in limbo. I'm against giving illegals drivers licenses. But while the the right seems busy blaming it all on the left, the illegals are getting them and both parties are handing them out.
    I agree completely. It's fair game to discuss issues when both sides are doing it. This passage in 2004 should be brought up by the left, but not because the right does it too, but because it's a national issue and should be discussed. I hate the "gotcha game" **** that both sides play.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's very compassionate towards her parents. By the way, there are a lot of "creatures" in hospitals and hospices today whose heads are "full of Jello". Do you suggest we just terminate these "creatures" once and for all today?
    At this point in time, a large portion of the population has had family member for whom they've had to decide whether to continue treatment and the option of not continuing treatment is considered unexceptional. As a result, I think most people think it should not be decided by a politically ambitious governor and would be turned off by Bush's actions in this matter
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I agree completely. It's fair game to discuss issues when both sides are doing it. This passage in 2004 should be brought up by the left, but not because the right does it too, but because it's a national issue and should be discussed. I hate the "gotcha game" **** that both sides play.
    I hope you don't think I'm playing that game. I made it clear that I oppose this. I'll be waiting to see how many on the right will call Bush out on this.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Are you sharing this with me because you want my approval, or because you think this is what's being discussed? The topic of this thread is how this will impact Jeb Bush politically, not how you would react if Terri Schiavo were your daughter.
    The two issues are one in the same. Yes it will affect just Bush politically in my eyes, because it was completely wrong for him to get involved in this. And a governor unilaterally involving himself in a personal family issue that's been adjudicated by the court system Great cause for concern
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You are remembering this differently than me. I remember her being cognizant of nothing, and hadn't been for many years. She was a complete vegetable, and her wishes, according to her husband, were to not be allowed to remain alive in a vegetative state. And I'm not sure what "motivations" you are talking about. The other woman? Terri was in a persistant vegetative state for 3 years when he met this woman. The money? There are arguments on both sides about that.
    Greetings, Superfly.

    I recall seeing her hug her parents when they visited, which meant she recognized them. At what point in her hospital stay this occurred I don't know. Perhaps it was early on in her long ordeal. I read somewhere, though, that if you are subjected to constant thoughts by someone who wished you dead, it can harm you, since your subconscious would pick up on that, and I think that's possible. Who knows?

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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I hope you don't think I'm playing that game. I made it clear that I oppose this. I'll be waiting to see how many on the right will call Bush out on this.
    No, I saw what you posted that you were against it. I'm against it too. If I was a resident in FL in 2004, I would have been furious at Bush for that.

    Most of the left leaning posters here would say I'm on the right, and I just called it out.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, I saw what you posted that you were against it. I'm against it too. If I was a resident in FL in 2004, I would have been furious at Bush for that.

    Most of the left leaning posters here would say I'm on the right, and I just called it out.
    Good for you. I suspect there must be some on the left that oppose this but haven't the spine to call it out.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Scary..... I thought the point was once you're an Adult you're outside of your parents sphere

    And by the way, where were Terry's ever so loving parents when she was starving herself down to nothing which is what caused her cardiac arrest in that whole ordeal in the first place?
    I like the way some are pretending the issue was about whether parents or a spouse should decide

    I think we all know that if it was the husband who wanted to continue treatment and the parents who wanted to end it, Bush and the righties would have been fine and demanded that the "Big Gubmint" keep their noses out of it.
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    Re: Does Jeb Bush have a Terri Schiavo Problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, I saw what you posted that you were against it. I'm against it too. If I was a resident in FL in 2004, I would have been furious at Bush for that.

    Most of the left leaning posters here would say I'm on the right, and I just called it out.
    Btw, unless the right gets together and decides that Bush is their best answer to Clinton or whoever the front runner ends up being on the left, this is the kind of thing that could get him in the primary.
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