View Poll Results: Are negative campaign ads effective with YOU?

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  • Yes. Negative campaign ads can cause me to vote against the candidate negatively portrayed

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  • No. Negative campaign ads cannot cause me to vote against the candidate portrayed.

    11 10.58%
  • I vote against the candidate running negative campaign ads.

    87 83.65%
  • I am only affected by negative campaign ads if they are comeplely honest.

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Thread: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    With me the effect of negative ads is inversely proportional to the level of the race.

    With a president, for instance, you're looking at a multi-billion dollar election cycle that involves both the candidates spending tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars getting their/name/message/brand out there, the parties spending hundreds of millions more to back their guy, PACs running ads both pro and con, the Commission on Presidential Debates doing their thing, and media of all sorts spending hundreds of millions, if not billions more, drilling down in to the candidates to find what's really there.

    Plus you're generally looking at folks who have long careers in politics or industry and accessible records which are demonstrative of the policy positions they take and the politics they employ and personal histories that help you get a feel for the candidates' character.

    I don't want or need negative campaign ads in such a case and to the small extent that I'm exposed to them the charges they make are usually pretty easy to substantiate or debunk.

    Where I think negative ads probably have more of an effect is all the way down the government ladder at the municipal level.

    If Candidate A sends me a glossy brochure explaining how Candidate B has been involved in, say, an effort to grant additional local land use to a mining company that does a lot of blasting in town and has been offering them a 20 year tax abatement on the use of that land in order to bring a half dozen more jobs in to the community, I'd probably actually take notice of something like that and consider it when casting my vote.

    I don't like the blasting that currently goes on and I don't think our community needs six new jobs which, effectively, would be paid for by the current citizens of the town through deferred tax revenue through a point in time well past the point where I expect I will have sold my current home in this community and moved elsewhere.

    So a bug has been planted in my head that sort of turns me off to Candidate B but the race is at such a low level and the candidates are, relatively speaking, so unknown and so campaign-fund-poor that it's unlikely I'll ever hear a rebuttal from Candidate B or have access through research to the kind of information I'd need to debunk the claims on my own.

    In the case of a president/Senator/governor negative ads are a waste but in a municipal election they could be a game changer.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Maybe I'm different but negative campaign ads bother me. Many are based in half truths and deception and in those cases I'm actually offended concluding the candidate running them thinks I'm too stupid to spot dishonesty when directed at me. I realize there are strong supporters of any candidate or party and I understand those people cheer the negative campaign ads bashing their guy's opponents but I thought ads were designed to persuade undecided voters or get people to change their minds.

    There's a local ad running right now attempting to unseat an incumbent. The incumbent promised to not raise taxes. The ad claims he broke his pledge because taxes went up. Truth: the candidate did not raise taxes. They were based on property values and because property values went up, so did property taxes. If the cost of gas goes up, so will the embedded gas tax. This doesn't mean the government "raised" gas taxes.
    I suspect that not many people who are members and frequent posters here on DP are in any way influenced by negative campaign ads or any campaign ads for that matter. Most of us are pretty up to date and daily consumers of politics and policy, and have a general ideological foundation, so we have a fairly solid basis for our views and aren't much swayed by the games. That, unfortunately, is not true of the vast majority of the public, voting public or not. The majority of people have little interest in politics, politicians, and even policy unless it knocks them over the head and affects them in their daily lives. As such, when they get to the point where they might pay attention, say in late September or October of the election year, they are susceptible to blatant lies and misrepresentations of candidates and their positions. It's why negative ads are very effective and aren't ever going away.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    We're not talking the same thing. You're talking individual issues. The premise of the thread is general, sometimes subconscious, gullibility and/or skepticism.
    Fair point, what I was trying to convey though is how much quicker our society is on picking up on things. To be honest, I think most political ads nowadays just fall in the background of the "noise" that is being generated by the flood of information that is being churned out daily. Honestly, most people see these ads and just numb to them.

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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Fair point, what I was trying to convey though is how much quicker our society is on picking up on things. To be honest, I think most political ads nowadays just fall in the background of the "noise" that is being generated by the flood of information that is being churned out daily. Honestly, most people see these ads and just numb to them.
    In that respect I agree. Today information travels faster and the science or art behind it has more impact.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?
    i hate them, and they make me want to stay home on election day. if i were a candidate, i would actively and vocally distance myself from them, and i would ask the asshole superpacs not to run them. if they continued to run them anyway, i would keep publicly asking them not to.

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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Maybe I'm different but negative campaign ads bother me. Many are based in half truths and deception and in those cases I'm actually offended concluding the candidate running them thinks I'm too stupid to spot dishonesty when directed at me. I realize there are strong supporters of any candidate or party and I understand those people cheer the negative campaign ads bashing their guy's opponents but I thought ads were designed to persuade undecided voters or get people to change their minds.

    There's a local ad running right now attempting to unseat an incumbent. The incumbent promised to not raise taxes. The ad claims he broke his pledge because taxes went up. Truth: the candidate did not raise taxes. They were based on property values and because property values went up, so did property taxes. If the cost of gas goes up, so will the embedded gas tax. This doesn't mean the government "raised" gas taxes.
    The poll is missing a question. Negative adds work with some people. Personally, I don't believe anything in any political add, I only listen for policy positions and look for a candidate who says what I want to hear. Then, if they get elected, they go to Washington and disappoint me.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    A question such as this should have its answer derived from data. I'm not sure what kind of conclusion you're looking for from this poll.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Maybe I'm different but negative campaign ads bother me. Many are based in half truths and deception and in those cases I'm actually offended concluding the candidate running them thinks I'm too stupid to spot dishonesty when directed at me. I realize there are strong supporters of any candidate or party and I understand those people cheer the negative campaign ads bashing their guy's opponents but I thought ads were designed to persuade undecided voters or get people to change their minds.

    There's a local ad running right now attempting to unseat an incumbent. The incumbent promised to not raise taxes. The ad claims he broke his pledge because taxes went up. Truth: the candidate did not raise taxes. They were based on property values and because property values went up, so did property taxes. If the cost of gas goes up, so will the embedded gas tax. This doesn't mean the government "raised" gas taxes.
    Most people stay true to their party regardless of negative ads.
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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In that respect I agree. Today information travels faster and the science or art behind it has more impact.
    It's not just that though. You have to understand that the wide array of information that you could potentially be bombarded with on a daily basis can become overwhelming. At some point, I think at a point it just becomes like a tidal wave that is more likely to wash over you. Same with negative ads now there being worked into online sphere, they just seem to blur over.

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    Re: Do negative campaign ads work with YOU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Most people stay true to their party regardless of negative ads.
    If there is an effect, it's going to be on the third of the country that aren't aligned I would agree.

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