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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    If anybody, even my kids, were stupid enough to go to an area like that and got kidnapped by ISIS I would be sad but I would also think that they were ****ing idiots for doing so and that it is there own damn problem now.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Yes. What are you going to do, charge them with aiding and abetting terrorism, after the fact? That's just unspeakably cruel.

    Now, our governments should certainly never pay ransoms, and they should discourage paying ransoms as a matter of policy. But trying to stop people from doing anything possible to get their loved ones home safely is unconscionable.

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    From the sounds of it, given his position, he likely ordered such a move, rather than killing those people himself. A dirtbag, to be sure.
    Yes and Sadaam ordered others to do his dirty work also. A single person in power and in command of thousands is more dangerous than a single person with a gun and a bomb strapped to his/her chest.

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    Weren't the Bergdahl Five released to house arrest in Qatar?
    1: Do you actually trust a government that actively supports Hamas? An organization that is considered as a Terrorist Organization.

    2: ....House arrest.... All that a house arrest means, assuming its even actually enforced, is that he has to stay in his house. He still has access to phones, internet, can have visitors, etc etc.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Montecresto, think. What would you expect a family member to say? If it were a member of my family, I would do anything to see they were released safely. Could I let my child die if there were any small, itsy bitsy chance I could buy their release? Of course not. That's why we don't let those involved in emotional issues such as this be involved in making policy.
    Oh, I don't think any Americans get to set any US policy do they. But in answer to this question, as I stated in my first post in this thread, the state department won't be determining the fate of my family member in that situation. As we know, the Islamic state is communicating directly with family members of kidnapped people.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    I honestly don't know. It's a damn good question.

    Thing is, paying ransom does more than fund terrorist activities; it guarantees that kidnapping will become a constant revenue source, and families who can't come up with the money will see their loved ones die... loved ones who might not have been taken captive in the first place if others had not shown ransom to be lucrative.

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If anybody, even my kids, were stupid enough to go to an area like that and got kidnapped by ISIS I would be sad but I would also think that they were ****ing idiots for doing so and that it is there own damn problem now.
    God damn it dad!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No, they shouldn't allow it. But it's not about the money, it's about our country's resolve not to negotiate with terrorists. PERIOD
    This, definitely. It's not just about that one instance of kidnapping. If kidnapping gets you the money, there will be more kidnapping. Not negotiating with terrorists and kidnappers helps prevent future terrorism and kidnapping.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'd leave the country and make the payment, collect my loved one and deduct it from my taxes, sense the whole fact that the Islamic state and other groups are running freely about the ME wreaking havoc because of the power vacuums created by US policy in the region.
    I do not believe ransom paid to foreign terrorists is an itemized deduction. Feel free to make your payment and collect your loved one, however.

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    God damn it dad!
    You are in it now... good luck.
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I do not believe ransom paid to foreign terrorists is an itemized deduction. Feel free to make your payment and collect your loved one, however.
    It is question 19 on form C...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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