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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    If the family wants to pay - they should be allowed to pay. I get both sides of the issue as well as the undermining of the government which could happen as well as encourage more kidnappings in the future as a money making. I'd just hope my government would strongly restrict travel to these countries regardless if it's a humanitarian or not. It's a tough issue, that's for sure.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You have large sums of money available to fund terrorist organizations?
    May be... may be not
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And yet Obama gave into a ransom of, iirc, 5 known terrorists for what many people believe to be a traitor. I may be wrong but I don't recall ANY other President doing such an idiotic exchange.
    President Bush let people go as well. The war is over this was a prisoner exchange.


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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    I don't know that you can even stop it. As a nation, we do not negotiate with terrorists, but individual citizens are not representatives of the nation and ought to be able to do what they want to do with their own money.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I just happened to see something about this cruising news channels before hockey game tonight, and I went back and forth on this question. Right now, it is US policy to not allow family members of people held captive by terrorists to pay a ransom to those terrorists for the release of that family member. This kinda makes sense in that the money would go to fund terrorists. However, that is telling people that they cannot spend their money as they choose, to save the life of a loved one, and that kinda strikes me as wrong too. SO what do you think, should the US continue the policy of not allowing people to ransom family members from terrorists, or should we allow it.

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    95% of the ransom demands quoted in the mainstream media of these groups in the ME don't make any sense, and so they're probably not authentic.

    According to these reports, the captors ask for more $$ than the families could possibly afford and/or borrow/raise, which renders the demand meaningless. Hello?!

    In the fog of war where propoganda is slung around everywhere by all sides (yes, including by the US gummint), it's impossible to know who's kidnapping who and who's asking for what.

    That being said, paying any money to someone claiming to promise to release a hostage in return is an incredibly stupid idea since there's no way to conclusively verify the identities of the recipients.

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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    President Bush let people go as well. The war is over this was a prisoner exchange.
    The war is over? Since when? Last I knew the War on Terror was still an on going issue.

    ABC News ~ War on Terror

    And only an idiot would trade what is considered 5 of the most dangerous terrorists for one soldier that is/was suspected of being a traitor. I know Bush was an idiot but I don't recall him ever making such a ****'d up exchange do you?
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No, they shouldn't allow it. But it's not about the money, it's about our country's resolve not to negotiate with terrorists. PERIOD
    But we negotiate with terrorists all the time, and have for a long time.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    95% of the ransom demands quoted in the mainstream media of these groups in the ME don't make any sense, and so they're probably not authentic.

    According to these reports, the captors ask for more $$ than the families could possibly afford and/or borrow/raise, which renders the demand meaningless. Hello?!

    In the fog of war where propoganda is slung around everywhere by all sides (yes, including by the US gummint), it's impossible to know who's kidnapping who and who's asking for what.

    That being said, paying any money to someone claiming to promise to release a hostage in return is an incredibly stupid idea since there's no way to conclusively verify the identities of the recipients.
    Don't need to verify them. All that you need to do is make a swap. Don't have the kidnapped loved one in front of ya? Don't do the swap.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The war is over? Since when? Last I knew the War on Terror was still an on going issue.

    ABC News ~ War on Terror

    And only an idiot would trade what is considered 5 of the most dangerous terrorists for one soldier that is/was suspected of being a traitor. I know Bush was an idiot but I don't recall him ever making such a ****'d up exchange do you?
    From what I've read, classifying the Bergdahl Five as some of the most dangerous terrorists is a bit of an overstatement.
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    Re: Should The US Allow Families of Kidnap Victims Pay Ransom To Terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    From what I've read, classifying the Bergdahl Five as some of the most dangerous terrorists is a bit of an overstatement.
    I don't know, Mullah Mohammad Fazl, a man who is wanted for war crimes by the UN for murdering thousands of Shiites seem pretty darn dangerous to me.

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