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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    No, not the death penalty. But long prison sentences. Fraud on a huge scale, recklessly destroying people's life savings, basically everything the bankers did to create the crash in 2008. All of those should result in very long stays in prison.
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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, not the death penalty. But long prison sentences. Fraud on a huge scale, recklessly destroying people's life savings, basically everything the bankers did to create the crash in 2008. All of those should result in very long stays in prison.
    Interesting.

    If someone applies for a loan while falsifying their income or not putting down their many other debt obligations, and the bank takes them at their word suspecting that they are probably lying but not caring, who has actually committed fraud?

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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IOWs there's no real consequence for the powerful and rich taking everything we commoners have worked our entire lives to achieve. Even if there was a death penalty, we'd never see a dime of our savings.

    Revolution comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I believe the US might have been helpful in arrangements after Nuremberg.

    In Germany it would be illegal to execute a mass murderer.
    There ya go. Germany would have just housed Hitler in jail. For life, do you think?
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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Who stole your pennies and how did they take everything you worked your entire life to achieve?
    Nothing from me but, I know.a couple of people who lost pretty much everything in 2008. One took his own life.

    My Wife lost half her 401.
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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Nothing from me but, I know.a couple of people who lost pretty much everything in 2008. One took his own life.

    My Wife lost half her 401.
    Most accounts have completely recovered while on average small business 401ks are doing about 20% better. Anyone that invests in unstable markets should understand they go down...they go up. So who do you blame? Bush? Clinton? Politicians for changing the sub-prime rules? People that took out home loans they knew damn well they couldnt afford? Or teh eeeeevil bankers?

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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    I could see supporting the death penalty for a white collar crime if it could be directly proven that the actions of the business person negligently and knowingly led to the death or deaths of customers.

    A couple of examples:

    1. Drug company executives who manipulated testing results to hide adverse, deadly effects of a drug coming on the market knowing that the drug could kill people and gambling that sales of the drugs would far outstrip any civil court ordered penalties for wrongful death lawsuits.

    2. Similarly, such as in the airbags case currently in the news, where a company knew their product was faulty, potentially dangerous and deadly, and yet continued to ship the product hoping to profit and avoid liability down the road.

    To me, such actions are premeditated, reckless, and "murderous" in the true sense of the word.
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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Nothing from me but, I know.a couple of people who lost pretty much everything in 2008. One took his own life.

    My Wife lost half her 401.
    So what? The market has rebounded and is stronger today than it was at it's peak in 2007. Nobody lost anything who was in the market long-term. The only people who lost are the ones who reacted emotionally and pulled their money out of the market. This is how the market works. It always rises long-term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    There ya go. Germany would have just housed Hitler in jail. For life, do you think?
    A life sentence is no longer life in the real sense. Present interpretation has it that that is incompatible with human dignity to take away hope or some such explanation.
    Capital punishment was forbidden by the constitution after but still exists untested in Hessen, so he would probably get 15 years and be put in an asylum thereafter. This way nobdy could criticize the procedure and Hitler would have the human dignity required, while he would be neatly out of sight. Something like that. The main problem would be that his presence would fill certain groups with enthusiasm.

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    Re: Death Penalty For White Colloar Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    A life sentence is no longer life in the real sense. Present interpretation has it that that is incompatible with human dignity to take away hope or some such explanation.
    Capital punishment was forbidden by the constitution after but still exists untested in Hessen, so he would probably get 15 years and be put in an asylum thereafter. This way nobdy could criticize the procedure and Hitler would have the human dignity required, while he would be neatly out of sight. Something like that. The main problem would be that his presence would fill certain groups with enthusiasm.
    I'm speechless.

    Thank you for your response to how Germans today would deal with Hitler post war.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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