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Thread: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    If they are trying to stir the public into lets bomb these animals until kingdom come in order to motivate the public into endorsing another war in the middle east then it is bad.
    DING DING DING !!! We have a winner.

    Fox wants to incite it's audience to a greater frenzy against ISIS, and Islam in general. It is doing the neo-con agenda bidding.

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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Since I'll never know what their reasoning is, I'll just hope it was posted for the news value and nothing else.
    You were doing so well until this.

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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Longshot Lou View Post
    You were doing so well until this.
    There's nothing wrong with hoping for the best in others. I'll always hope for that, because I never want to be one of those who sees evil in everything. There are far too many people like that in the world, people who see evil, who see conspiracy, around every corner and in every action. Those people are sad because they will never allow themselves true happiness.

    I don't want to be like that. I know Fox News doesn't have the best track record for things, but I'll still hope they posted it for the right reasons.

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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, tres borachos.

    Me neither, Tres. I don't need to see cruelty on the part of ISIS or anyone else to know it exists. When I saw the video of the gentle elephant in India with tears in his eyes as he was being freed from his shackles after 30 years of being beaten, starved, and worked to death, I sat at my computer table crying for a long time. Have some people become so used to personal misery in their life that they lose all sense of right and wrong? It's the only explanation I can come up with when I think of groups like ISIS, because no baby is born mean - it is taught to them, IMO.

    For over 25 years my job was to see these things and report on them. You do not get used to it.

    Few reporters like it after a few times, you see one body with half the torso blown away by a shot gun, smell it, you don't want to go back. But there is a reason we have to go. Ratings. The viewer demands to see it, maybe not you or Tres, but the majority.

    These protests now from the left only come after Obama's flaccid stance on terror and his asinine "crusades" comment, and it's, gasp, Fox, the worse enemy than Islamic terror...

    There is also the public right to know. The American voter needs to know it's government is losing a war as much as it might be winning, just as they need to know American troops are obeying the rules, being properly fed, equipped and protected.

    The problem with the left is their concept of freedom of speech is limited to their beliefs, they object to the release of anything not on their enemies list...growing longer every day.
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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Not only is it in absolute poor taste, they are basically advertising ISIS.

    FoxNews' new tagline:

    Suck it 4chan amateur pukes!
    You object to knowing the depth of terror in the enemy?

    Or is Fox and the Republican party your enemy?
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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    For over 25 years my job was to see these things and report on them. You do not get used to it.

    Few reporters like it after a few times, you see one body with half the torso blown away by a shot gun, smell it, you don't want to go back. But there is a reason we have to go. Ratings. The viewer demands to see it, maybe not you or Tres, but the majority.

    These protests now from the left only come after Obama's flaccid stance on terror and his asinine "crusades" comment, and it's, gasp, Fox, the worse enemy than Islamic terror...

    There is also the public right to know. The American voter needs to know it's government is losing a war as much as it might be winning, just as they need to know American troops are obeying the rules, being properly fed, equipped and protected.

    The problem with the left is their concept of freedom of speech is limited to their beliefs, they object to the release of anything not on their enemies list...growing longer every day.
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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    It's not journalism, it's sensationalism. Fox News continues to disgrace and discredit itself.
    I'm not a Fox News viewer, but I can't think of one "news" organization that doesn't capitalize on tragedy in a sensational fashion in order to drum up revenue.

    If this is Fox disgracing and discrediting itself, and I'm not necessarily suggesting that it isn't, then I can't think of a single graceful, creditable news outlet.
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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    I dont know about Fox News but I think it SHOULD be out in the mainstream. Its rather ironic you think this is a 'propoganda' video when in fact the exposure to and from the video is what inspired the Muslim Imams to publicly condemn ISIS.

    People SHOULD watch a beheading or two. You should watch the videos of children being violated and having their heads crushed. You should stiffen up...be shocked...be outraged. You should stop shutting your eyes to the actual evil and brutality those ****s represent. It should turn your stomach. It should piss you off. It should strengthen your resolve to stand against them.

    As ugly as war is, people got the sanitized version of Husseins incursion into Kuwait. Most people didnt see the pieces parts of families left in the street. You didnt see the aftermath of troops rounding up dozens of people in closed alleyways and brutalizing them before killing them. You didnt see even a piece of the atrocities committed by those sadistic ****s. And what that caused was a bunch of people to jump from being on board the war effort when it was politically expedient to the war for oil political rhetoric that followed.

    It aint pretty. But hey...its just watching a video...not picking up actual body parts.

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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    I watched the video and other than the obvious horrific way the Jordanian pilot was killed, a couple of things came to mind concerning both the airing of this video by Fox News and the information the Jordanian pilot apparently gave up.

    1. There are some videos a new organization should not show. This was one of them. Why? Because of what may be a hidden intent behind it as addressed in the posts below:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I disagree, I don't think we need videos like this to show how evil ISIS is. I think Fox News did ISIS work for them. They will show this, but you'll never see what those car bombs did to the people in Iraq and to our troops. You'll see car parts everywhere, but you won't see parts of bodies on the streets.;
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it depends on why they are showing the video. I they are trying to stir the public into lets bomb these animals until kingdom come in order to motivate the public into endorsing another war in the middle east then it is bad. If they are simply trying to show how evil these animals are then its possible it might be good. I do not know about you but I do not need a video of animals lighting a man on fire to know that ISIL is evil. I am sure most people don't as well. So I suspect the intent in to enrage the public enough into supporting another war that we have no business in.
    It is interesting that while Fox News could claim that they aired the video unfiltered and unedited, the lack of editing, i.e., Arabic to English translation (sub-titles), would have helped enlighten and inform the viewing audience as to what the captive and the video's narrator were saying. Instead, all we come away with is both the horror and the disdain of the torturous death act. To that, you miss tons of other information that could have been helpful.

    2. The Jordanian pilot apparently revealed tons of information to his captors, specifically the types of military fighter jets used, missile capabilities and air bases used. To me as a veteran, this is dangerous! When a POW, name, rank, serial number is all you give...nothing more, anything less. Nonetheless, I thank God that neither I nor anyone I know were in this guy's shoes. Who knows what he was promised if he gave up vital information though. In the end, his death might have been the spark that was needed to convince the Arab World to take up arms against this madness! Sad it had to come to this to get their attention.
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    Re: Fox News posts the ISIS propaganda video on their website.

    It's newsworthy. I think they did the right thing by posting it. When news organizations show pictures of the Phelps clan holding bigass God Hates Fags signs, is that propaganda too? I think the news is way too sanitized sometimes. It avoids showing the truly horrific side of human nature in an effort to protect the sensibilities of some. The world is f***ed up. Pretending that it's not is kind of stupid.
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