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Thread: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

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    Re: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    If needless aggression is your call to arms, why aren't you outraged and ready to send in a military response to the Boko Haram's massacres in Nigeria? I detect Class A hypocrisy here.
    because they do not have WMDs controlled by an insane dictator, that i'm aware of? Also because there is severe persecution of minorities in nigeria, so i could not care less what happens to the majority.

    So call it cultural bias (even though i've met more nigerians than ukranians), call it not giving a **** about the fate of bigots, whatever you like. It's not my motivations that matter if/when WWIII takes off, and it won't be precipitated by events in nigeria

    i didn't say the US should get involved militarily either. I said it's *not the same* as iraq

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    Re: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    because they do not have WMDs controlled by an insane dictator, that i'm aware of? Also because there is severe persecution of minorities in nigeria, so i could not care less what happens to the majority. So call it cultural bias (even though i've met more nigerians than ukranians), call it not giving a **** about the fate of bigots, whatever you like. It's not my motivations that matter if/when WWIII takes off, and it won't be precipitated by events in nigeria i didn't say the US should get involved militarily either. I said it's *not the same* as iraq
    1) The US, UK, France, Germany, etc, all have WMD's. Does that mean they're going to use them in every conflict they're in? No and the same applies to Russia. Putin is hardly insane...he may be crazy but crazy like a fox.

    2) So you say you are culturally biased. Black lives in Africa are of much less value than white European lives. Gotcha.

    3) The invasion of Iraq was immoral and by many international standards, illegal as it was based on lies.

    4) Only the war mongering ideologues are saying events in the Ukraine could lead to WW III.

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    Re: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
    1) The US, UK, France, Germany, etc, all have WMD's. Does that mean they're going to use them in every conflict they're in? No and the same applies to Russia. Putin is hardly insane...he may be crazy but crazy like a fox.

    2) So you say you are culturally biased. Black lives in Africa are of much less value than white European lives. Gotcha.

    3) The invasion of Iraq was immoral and by many international standards, illegal as it was based on lies.

    4) Only the war mongering ideologues are saying events in the Ukraine could lead to WW III.
    1) He just made the biggest blatant land grab in europe since 1939. He's a monster and i won't put anything past him

    2) no, the lives of *bigots who persecute minorities* are less valuable. There are plenty of those in ukraine too, but not 98% like in nigeria

    3) i don't disagree, and it only proves my point that obama's military actions and attempts to justify them are not the same

    4) lol what? i don't want war anywhere, but you can't even admit it's more likely to cause a major conflict than events in nigeria

    5) i'm bored with this now, moving on. Do not interpret lack of response to strawmans as agreement

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    Re: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    i'm bored with this now, moving on. Do not interpret lack of response to strawmans as agreement
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    Not to worry. I will see your lack of response as running out of far fetched rationalizations for war.

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    Re: At Munich Conference, US Hawks Press for Military Escalation Towards Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Rubbish. The former Russian commander of rebel forces in eastern Ukraine says otherwise...

    Russia's Igor Strelkov: I Am Responsible for War in Eastern Ukraine
    The Russians made Yanukovych leave his office? Hogwash.

    Anytime a nation wishes to align with the West it is our business.
    No it is not.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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