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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    The best thing to do is to take religion out of it. Any person encouraging violence should be arrested, Muslims included. Simples.

    To go on and on about so-called 'radical Islam' the way that the hysteriacs at Fox News do creates a McCarthyist environment and demonizes all Muslims. The best thing is to take religion out of it.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No the voices are in your head. Where did I say the government is doing it? I said SOME APPEAR to think that governement should tell Islam specifically what it can and cannot teach.
    Do you know what you posted? Are making something up to ask a ridiculous question?

    Who is suggesting the government should restrict the teaching of Islam?

    How about I post this. It's as based in reality as your Poll.

    Some are suggesting Islam should be allowed to teach people to kill infidels? Should Islam be allowed to kill Infidels in the US?

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by spangledbanner View Post
    the best thing to do is to take religion out of it. Any person encouraging violence should be arrested, muslims included. Simples.

    To go on and on about so-called 'radical islam' the way that the hysteriacs at fox news do creates a mccarthyist environment and demonizes all muslims. The best thing is to take religion out of it.
    exactly!

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    NY PD's program of surveillance of radical Imams in Mosques has been stopped. Now is surveillance the same as banning, might be a question for discussion.
    It might be. It's certainly more grounded in reality than the OP.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    There are laws against incitement and when a radical imam is justifying or legitimizing the murder of innocents for example he is violating these laws.
    As such there is no need for 'special laws' that target the Islamic religion alone. It is unnecessary and undemocratic to create such laws.
    What needs to be done is more enforcement on incitement.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    There are laws against incitement and when a radical imam is justifying or legitimizing the murder of innocents for example he is violating these laws.
    As such there is no need for 'special laws' that target the Islamic religion alone. It is unnecessary and undemocratic to create such laws.
    What needs to be done is more enforcement on incitement.
    Agreed. So why ban the NY PD's program on surveillance of radical Imams in Mosques? Why allow that to continue unmonitored? Why raise the public safety risks by terminating that program? Has DeBlasio addressed this question and this decision of his? (I think it was his decision).
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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Do you know what you posted? Are making something up to ask a ridiculous question?
    Of course I know what I posted. Here is what I said exactly:

    Some appear to feel that the U.S. government has the right to single out Islam and say specifically what it can and cannot teach. Should the government be allowed to single out a specific religion in this way?
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Who is suggesting the government should restrict the teaching of Islam?
    I did not say anyone was suggesting that. I did say that some appear to think that the government should single out Islam and say what it can and cannot teach. That is wrong and that is quite different from saying restrict the teaching of Islam.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    How about I post this. It's as based in reality as your Poll.

    Some are suggesting Islam should be allowed to teach people to kill infidels? Should Islam be allowed to kill Infidels in the US?
    No, it is a fact that some APPEAR to suggest that we single Islam out as a religion. And if you think I am making it up consider this

    In exploring Islam’s own stated doctrine, its own stated laws, and its own stated goals for the world, it is clear that Islam remains an ideology and system of governance that demands the extermination of anyone who does not subscribe to each and every one of its tenants. Given the factual basis of what “Islamists” say they seek to impose in this world, the United States has come to accept that radical “true Islam” is both a political and military enemy to free people throughout the world. […]

    It is therefore time for the United States to make our true intentions clear. This barbaric ideology will no longer be tolerated. Islam must change or we will facilitate its self-destruction.
    Are you familiar with Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Dooley? That's what he was teaching U.S. military officers at the Joint Forces Staff College.

    No, I am not making it up. That's what some people believe.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Your premise is wrong. Any religion who's adherents have shown a pattern of violent behavior would attract scrutiny. It's not Islam per say, it's murder and fear spread in the name of Islam. When a murder is committed by a Muslim shouting allahu akbar, should we look at the local catholic parish for the assailant?
    No, but some are suggesting that Islam specifically be singled out.

    Again, consider Matthew Dooley

    US military course taught officers 'Islam is the enemy' | US news | The Guardian

    "They hate everything you stand for and will never coexist with you, unless you submit," the instructor, Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Dooley, said in a presentation last July for the course at Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Virginia. The college, for professional military members, teaches mid-level officers and government civilians on subjects related to planning and executing war.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    There are laws against incitement and when a radical imam is justifying or legitimizing the murder of innocents for example he is violating these laws.
    As such there is no need for 'special laws' that target the Islamic religion alone. It is unnecessary and undemocratic to create such laws.
    What needs to be done is more enforcement on incitement.
    That is correct. We simply do not need to be targeting a specific religion.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government tell a specific religion what they can teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Of course I know what I posted. Here is what I said exactly:





    I did not say anyone was suggesting that. I did say that some appear to think that the government should single out Islam and say what it can and cannot teach. That is wrong and that is quite different from saying restrict the teaching of Islam.



    No, it is a fact that some APPEAR to suggest that we single Islam out as a religion. And if you think I am making it up consider this



    Are you familiar with Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Dooley? That's what he was teaching U.S. military officers at the Joint Forces Staff College.

    No, I am not making it up. That's what some people believe.
    It would appear that Dooley said the following: "that radical “true Islam” is both a political and military enemy to free people throughout the world."

    Based on what I have heard and seen on videos from radical "true Islam" followers, his claim is 100% accurate.

    I don't know what it takes to pass over and ignore "radical" in his statement, but it would seem you have it in abundance.

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