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    Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Muslims have been condemning ISIS since its inception, yet whenever they do, it's suddenly a new event. Many greet the news of Muslim condemnation of ISIS with a critical yawn, or accuse them of being too late. Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough to please you?

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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    As long as the condemn them with their bullets instead of ours, then yes. Otherwise, no.

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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    I think it's just time to accept that no matter what, some westerners will simply never trust, accept or tolerate Muslims.

    The line between legitimate suspicion and rampant paranoia is very much thinner than we think.

    But that's their problem, not mine.

    I stand against radical Islamism and those that would seek to subvert our fundamental freedoms because of their own paranoid bigotry.

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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    One condemnation is all it takes.


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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    It's religion. It's scripted lunacy.

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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    While I think that Muslims can absolutely condemn the radicals enough, I don't think that simple condemnation is enough, they need to back up their words with action and be willing to clean up their own house. Most of them have spent decades looking the other way while the radicals have ruled the roost and it's only relatively recently that they've started to realize how out of control things are. Most of us have known that radical Islam was becoming an increasing problem for more than 30 years. Why didn't they do something about it when it wasn't rolling across the Middle East in tanks, beheading people and flying airplanes into buildings?
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Muslims have condemned terrorism committed by other Muslims enough for me. In all honesty, I've never needed them to condemn it because, having actually known Muslims, it never crossed my mind that they would feel the same about such terrorism as I, a non-Muslim, feels. Asking them to condemn terrorism would be as peculiar as asking any of the non-Muslim people I know to condemn terrorism.

    The people who ask Muslims to condemn terrorism view Muslims as "other" - as "them." Those people are never going to be satisfied with Muslim condemnation because they are committed to their xenophobia. First, they say Muslims need to condemn terrorism. Then, when they are shown such condemnations, they say that Muslims need to act not just speak. Then, when they are shown Muslims' anti-terrorist actions, they say that their actions mean nothing until all terrorism committed by Muslims stops.

    It reminds me of people who as why don't Black people talk about "black-on-black crime" in spite of the fact that Black people speak frequently about intra-community crime. Such people live under the self-centered assumption that the things they don't see, don't exist. If they don't see Black people or Muslims condemning certain types of violence or working to end it, then it must not happen. These people are, of course, fools. Unfortunately, many of these fools have power.

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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Muslims have been condemning ISIS since its inception, yet whenever they do, it's suddenly a new event. Many greet the news of Muslim condemnation of ISIS with a critical yawn, or accuse them of being too late. Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough to please you?
    I think that for the sake of 'satisfaction', clerics could get together and excommunicate anyone involved with ISIS and make it well known why. If that can be done in the religion, I don't know. That would be a great way of removing religion from their motive.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    ISIS is a terrorist organization, bent on gaining power through intimidation and fear. They may say, "Allah Ackbar" all they want, but they are not doing the will of Allah or any of the other gods men have concocted. They are driven by a desire for power, pure and simple, and use religious belief for their own ends.

    There is no "clash of civilizations" between Christianity and Islam. Those wars belong to the middle ages. There is a clash between decent people who simply want to live in peace, and fanatics who want to run the world.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    ISIS is a terrorist organization, bent on gaining power through intimidation and fear. They may say, "Allah Ackbar" all they want, but they are not doing the will of Allah or any of the other gods men have concocted. They are driven by a desire for power, pure and simple, and use religious belief for their own ends.

    There is no "clash of civilizations" between Christianity and Islam. Those wars belong to the middle ages. There is a clash between decent people who simply want to live in peace, and fanatics who want to run the world.
    The problem is, much of islam is still in the middle ages, but you are right, it isn't a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between the civilized and the uncivilized.

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