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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Muslims have been condemning ISIS since its inception, yet whenever they do, it's suddenly a new event. Many greet the news of Muslim condemnation of ISIS with a critical yawn, or accuse them of being too late. Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough to please you?
    Yes, and they have. Positive polling results too I might add.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Other Muslims condemning ISIS is fine. But that's just words.

    At least with Jordan, there's action behind those words. We can only hope that this action that Jordan has taken will draw in other Muslim nations and other Muslims to take equal action.

    Actions speak louder than words.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Other Muslims condemning ISIS is fine. But that's just words.

    At least with Jordan, there's action behind those words. We can only hope that this action that Jordan has taken will draw in other Muslim nations and other Muslims to take equal action.

    Actions speak louder than words.
    So the Muslims church in say the Philippines can't just condemn Islamic extremism from the pulpit, they need to pass the plate, tack up collections, buy an F-16 and take the fight to the Islamic state.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So the Muslims church in say the Philippines can't just condemn Islamic extremism from the pulpit, they need to pass the plate, tack up collections, buy an F-16 and take the fight to the Islamic state.
    Not what I was saying, and you know that. Come on!

    For the longest time, seemingly silence from other Muslims on the barbaric behaviors of their brethren in the Middle East.

    Now they are openly condemning, not because westerners were killed, maimed, or beheaded, but because a fellow Muslim, in this case a Jordanian pilot, was killed. That should speak volumes to begin with.

    Even so, I welcome them to the fight against ISIS.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Not what I was saying, and you know that. Come on!

    For the longest time, seemingly silence from other Muslims on the barbaric behaviors of their brethren in the Middle East.

    Now they are openly condemning, not because westerners were killed, maimed, or beheaded, but because a fellow Muslim, in this case a Jordanian pilot, was killed. That should speak volumes to begin with.

    Even so, I welcome them to the fight against ISIS.
    Sorry dude, you compared Muslim clerics who have been condemning Islamic extremists all along with the Jordanian government who is flying sorties against the Islamic state. Saying that one is empty words and the other is action. That's bull****. Muslim clerics are not obliged to engage the filthy Islamic state. Your hate of all Muslims is flashing in your post. Furthermore, Muslim clerics the world over have been condemning Islamic extremism for a long time, it's been covered in the international press all along, it's just that US press has only just began to turn the volume up on it. This is why our former SoS testified before congress that American media is fluff and no substance, while the international press, rt, Al Jazeera, Press etc are winning the information war. Turn off FOX news, and learn not to be a hater.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry dude, you compared Muslim clerics who have been condemning Islamic extremists all along with the Jordanian government who is flying sorties against the Islamic state. Saying that one is empty words and the other is action. That's bull****. Muslim clerics are not obliged to engage the filthy Islamic state. Your hate of all Muslims is flashing in your post. Furthermore, Muslim clerics the world over have been condemning Islamic extremism for a long time, it's been covered in the international press all along, it's just that US press has only just began to turn the volume up on it. This is why our former SoS testified before congress that American media is fluff and no substance, while the international press, rt, Al Jazeera, Press etc are winning the information war. Turn off FOX news, and learn not to be a hater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Other Muslims condemning ISIS is fine. But that's just words.

    At least with Jordan, there's action behind those words. We can only hope that this action that Jordan has taken will draw in other Muslim nations and other Muslims to take equal action.

    Actions speak louder than words.
    do you get 'empty' words? I never used the word 'empty'. Nor did I call out any 'clerics'. So you 'imagined' two words that I didn't put in there. I never said anything about "Muslim clerics are not obliged to engage the filthy Islamic state", nor do I have any "hate of all Muslims is flashing in your post. " You are imagining things yet again.

    I have no problem with Muslims, nor anyone who practices the Islamic faith. I do have a problem with the Militant Islamic Fundamentalists. If you look back over my posting history, you'll see that I've drawn that most important distinction for quite some time already, by specifically using that term to refer to these animals.

    So really, you are imagining things that aren't there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Muslim clerics the world over have been condemning Islamic extremism for a long time, it's been covered in the international press all along, it's just that US press has only just began to turn the volume up on it.
    To which the fault lies with the Biased Lame Stream Media (BLSM). Covering those instances may very well have headed off much needless Islamophobia, but I can see their perspective, should there be Islamic hate crimes, they'd get better ratings covering that.
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Where in

    do you get 'empty' words? I never used the word 'empty'. Nor did I call out any 'clerics'. So you 'imagined' two words that I didn't put in there. I never said anything about "Muslim clerics are not obliged to engage the filthy Islamic state", nor do I have any "hate of all Muslims is flashing in your post. " You are imagining things yet again.

    I have no problem with Muslims, nor anyone who practices the Islamic faith. I do have a problem with the Militant Islamic Fundamentalists. If you look back over my posting history, you'll see that I've drawn that most important distinction for quite some time already, by specifically using that term to refer to these animals.

    So really, you are imagining things that aren't there.



    To which the fault lies with the Biased Lame Stream Media (BLSM). Covering those instances may very well have headed off much needless Islamophobia, but I can see their perspective, should there be Islamic hate crimes, they'd get better ratings covering that.
    You said Muslim condemnation is just words, and Jordan has action behind their words. So I ask you once again to shelve your hatred of Muslims, and tell me what "action" they should take so that they could have the credibility of the Jordanian government, hmm?
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said Muslim condemnation is just words, and Jordan has action behind their words. So I ask you once again to shelve your hatred of Muslims, and tell me what "action" they should take so that they could have the credibility of the Jordanian government, hmm?
    When a Muslim speaks, does he speak words? Yes.
    When a Muslim speaks and praises Allah, does he speak words? Yes.
    When a Muslim speaks and condemns the actions of Militant Islamic Fundamentalists is he speaking words? Yes.

    Does observing that actions speak louder than words exhibit hatred of someone? No.

    So what was your point again?

    Don't think that any Muslim cleric, especially the ones preaching radicalism, could ever have as much credibility as the King of Jordan nor the Jordan nation in action, because, at the end of the day, actions do in fact speak louder than words. And frankly, this can be said of everyone / anyone.

    So what was your point again?
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said Muslim condemnation is just words, and Jordan has action behind their words. So I ask you once again to shelve your hatred of Muslims, and tell me what "action" they should take so that they could have the credibility of the Jordanian government, hmm?
    ISIS sure does have an easy time with recruiting. Wouldn't you agree there's something very wrong with that reality?
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    Re: Can Muslims ever condemn ISIS enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    When a Muslim speaks, does he speak words? Yes.
    When a Muslim speaks and praises Allah, does he speak words? Yes.
    When a Muslim speaks and condemns the actions of Militant Islamic Fundamentalists is he speaking words? Yes.

    Does observing that actions speak louder than words exhibit hatred of someone? No.

    So what was your point again?

    Don't think that any Muslim cleric, especially the ones preaching radicalism, could ever have as much credibility as the King of Jordan nor the Jordan nation in action, because, at the end of the day, actions do in fact speak louder than words. And frankly, this can be said of everyone / anyone.

    So what was your point again?
    To criticise your assertion that the Jordanian government is superior to Muslim clerics because all they do is speak words of condemnation, whereas the Jordanians are flying sorties, which of course is stupid. And being coy isn't protecting you. Anything to disparage the Muslim. And again, what "action" should Muslim clerics take that would elevate them to the same level of praise that you have for the Jordanian government, hmm?
    Last edited by Montecresto; 02-13-15 at 04:16 PM.
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