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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    No it's not different. You are against the right of a medical professional choosing to end the suffering of an individual at that individuals request.

    A Medical professional has every right to compassionately choose to assist. And the medical professional is NOT a barbarian or an aggressive murderer for doing so.

    That is where the contention between you and I lays.
    Yes, that is a point of contention.

    For example, Jack Kevorkian was a ****ing murderer, no different than any other contract killer, and it is a travesty he didn't die in prison.

    You cannot abdicate an unalienable human right.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Again, staggering ignorance of the work those folks do.

    Do you know how end stage dementia patients die? Dehydration, usually.


    I guess their dnr and no iv fluid requests were their suicide notes as far as your concerned.
    How is this distinction lost on you.

    f the said individual is not on their way out the door currently. They are are sober of mind and they are presently choosing to commit suicide. This is then translated to the medical professionals who then decide to make that suicide painless, they have, indeed, decided to assist in that individuals suicide.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yes, that is a point of contention.

    For example, Jack Kevorkian was a ****ing murderer, no different than any other contract killer, and it is a travesty he didn't die in prison.

    You cannot abdicate an unalienable human right.
    A murder is taking the life from someone who did not want to die. You are creating a strawman.

    Assisted suicide is not murder. The individual dying simply asked for a medical professional to administer them the cocktail needed to peacefully end their lives. The individual then takes the concoction on their own. It's their choice. Their UNALIENABLE RIGHT to their own life.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That doesn't say what you think it does. Again, someone deciding on their own free will to not eat is not someone else harming them.
    That didnt say what you thought it did. I never claimed he said anything about harming anyone.

    I said that he wished suffering on them. Which is clear when you say to just let someone starve to death, die of dehydration, etc.

    To give them pain meds would be assisting that end.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    you cannot give your "right to life" to another person, unalienable rights are not transferable.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    It's against my personal moral compass but yes, people should have the choice if they want it. There are some very nasty and painful ways to die and when there is no hope and when there is no pressure or money involved, it should be a legal option in the US.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Pain medication is not assisting in a suicide.

    This is such ignorance of the work that palliative healthcare professionals do that it buggers belief.
    Of course it is, it is the definition of 'assisting' as you were already shown.

    It is enabling the act.

    We all know how you like to create your own definitions and ignore 'actual' definitions that are published and recognized by mainstream AND medical professionals.

    You are just highlighting this again in this thread. No one is fooled, no matter how you define your bizarre interpretations of real life.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    My mother died from pancreatic cancer. In her final days she asked my brother to kill her. If I knew then what I know now, I'd have done it. We went to bed one night and a hospice nurse sat with her. At some time during the night she threw up in her mouth and was unable to turn her head and clear her through. She gargled on it for god knows how long until I woke up, with the nurse sitting there watching her. We cleared her mouth and she died shortly after. You're damned right that when there was no hope of quality of life and the only thing she had to look forward to was suffering, I'd have gladly ended her misery.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Of course it is, it is the definition of 'assisting' as you were already shown.

    It is enabling the act.

    We all know how you like to create your own definitions and ignore 'actual' definitions that are published and recognized by mainstream AND medical professionals.

    You are just highlighting this again in this thread. No one is fooled, no matter how you define your bizarre interpretations of real life.

    His definition is if they are not actively helping them tie the noose around their neck then it's not assistance.

    But yes even if they only provide them with the stool for just that purpose, they have still assisted in the suicide.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Adult people have the right to die if they choose to die. Not my call when, why or how they do it, so if they want to die via assisted suicide, they should have that option.
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