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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Here, you clearly did so:
    That doesn't say what you think it does. Again, someone deciding on their own free will to not eat is not someone else harming them.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    An individual can choose to end their life. That is their right. The arbitrary notion that one can not do with their life as they please is what is being appealed. You are appealing to the authority of an old established mantra.

    No one is buying it though. If someone is suffering and they want to die , That Is Their UNALIENABLE RIGHT to choose that course of action.
    He didn't say otherwise. He objects to someone else killing them, not people deciding on their own to die.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Pain medication is not assisting in a suicide.

    This is such ignorance of the work that palliative healthcare professionals do that it buggers belief.

    If a palliative health care professional is actively administering pain medication for an individual that they actively know as they are administering the pain medication is committing suicide, and the only reason they are administering this medication is to alleviate the pain associated with the suicide. Then YES they are assisting that individual with their suicide.

    I can't believe I have to spell that out.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    An individual can choose to end their life. That is their right. The arbitrary notion that one can not do with their life as they please is what is being appealed. You are appealing to the authority of an old established mantra.

    No one is buying it though. If someone is suffering and they want to die , That Is Their UNALIENABLE RIGHT to choose that course of action.
    Absolutely. If you want to die, kill yourself.

    What you want though is different, and not one word of the rhetoric you just used has any relevance in promoting it.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He didn't say otherwise. He objects to someone else killing them, not people deciding on their own to die.

    If someone chooses to assist them under professional knowledge that is also their right.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I won't speak for other countries and peoples and the laws they wish to enact, but I'm glad that our Supreme Court has finally come around to what the vast majority of Canadian people wanted. I wish it would go further and in time it might - perhaps not in time for me, but there's always hope. I'm all for the Soylent Green option, without the final product, of course.
    It's not a path I would take, nor support, but no government has the right to be in the bedrooms of the dying.

    I cannot support is a Christian, but as a liberal with libertarian roots, that's simply too much Big Brother. I am rather fond of this court, although Bev McLachlin can say some scary things
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Absolutely. If you want to die, kill yourself.

    What you want though is different, and not one word of the rhetoric you just used has any relevance in promoting it.
    No it's not different. You are against the right of a medical professional choosing to end the suffering of an individual at that individuals request.

    A Medical professional has every right to compassionately choose to assist. And the medical professional is NOT a barbarian or an aggressive murderer for doing so.

    That is where the contention between you and I lays.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I really resent that. I am a person of faith, but I'm not a nut. I don't think that the government should be in the live-or-die business anyway, but this doesn't make me a nut.
    Some atheists can't find it in them to not insult people of faith. I'm an atheist too, but in my mind people have the right to believe in whatever god they want and by doing so they are not a nut. It's just part of human nature to believe in such things, and if Jet knew his history he would know this.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    If a palliative health care professional is actively administering pain medication for an individual that they actively know as they are administering the pain medication is committing suicide, and the only reason they are administering this medication is to alleviate the pain associated with the suicide. Then YES they are assisting that individual with their suicide.

    I can't believe I have to spell that out.
    Again, staggering ignorance of the work those folks do.

    Do you know how end stage dementia patients die? Dehydration, usually.

    I guess their dnr and no iv fluid requests were their suicide notes as far as your concerned.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It's not a path I would take, nor support, but no government has the right to be in the bedrooms of the dying.

    I cannot support is a Christian, but as a liberal with libertarian roots, that's simply too much Big Brother. I am rather fond of this court, although Bev McLachlin can say some scary things
    I've generally disagreed with a lot of this nanny state court, but they got this one right on balance.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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