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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    I assume, of course, that anyone who believes I can abdicate my right to life and hire someone to kill me must also believe it is acceptable for me to abdicate my right to liberty and sell myself into slavery (presumably with my next of kin getting the funds, as I will no longer be able to own anything).

    The reason I make this assumption is because the logical basis for not permitting the latter is the same for not permitting the former.

    I cannot sell myself into slavery because I cannot give up my right to liberty. It is unalienable.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So do people have to provide their labor so you get medical treatment or does it just pop out of the void to make you feel all better.
    If it saves lives, then yes, my tax dollars can go to healthcare.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    So refuse treatment, refuse food, and refuse water.

    You will die soon enough and no one else will be responsible for that death but you.
    Wishing suffering on others is not new for you.

    The discussion will clearly demonstrate who has compassion and who does not.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dobsdot00 View Post
    If it saves lives, then yes, my tax dollars can go to healthcare.
    You got tax dollars out of that? Yes, it takes labor to pay taxes, but really, when I said provide you medical treatment, you somehow thought I meant taxes?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol, I used your definition, ffs.

    No you really didn't
    : a forceful action or procedure (as an unprovoked attack) especially when intended to dominate or master
    2
    : the practice of making attacks or encroachments; especially : unprovoked violation by one country of the territorial integrity of another
    3
    : hostile, injurious, or destructive behavior or outlook especially when caused by frustration
    All three definitions use adjectives such as "forceful" "violation" "hostile"

    Meaning that aggression is marked by an act that violates and is forceful towards another individual.

    A doctor assisted suicide meets none of those definitions not by a long a shot.

    Try harder to build your strawman.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    So now, op, you are comparing all palliative healthcare to assisted suicide.

    No. Palliative healthcare does not in anyway involve killing a dying patient.

    Giving someone pain medication they desire but not giving them water they do not desire is a function of essential bioethics - the principle of patient autonomy.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    There is a difference between euthanasia and assisted suicide. With euthanasia the doctor administers the lethal drug. With assisted suicide the doctor provides the lethal drug, but the person administers it to him/herself.

    I have no problem with either method, but for those who are uncomfortable with the idea of a doctor ending the life of a patient, maybe assisted suicide is more acceptable.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You got tax dollars out of that? Yes, it takes labor to pay taxes, but really, when I said provide you medical treatment, you somehow thought I meant taxes?
    You should be more clear when posting comments.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    No you really didn't


    All three definitions use adjectives such as "forceful" "violation" "hostile"

    Meaning that aggression is marked by an act that violates and is forceful towards another individual.
    Aggression involves inflicting a harmful or other unpleasantness upon another individual.
    Second definition in your link.

    Your feelings towards the subject are secondary.
    First definition in your link.

    I used your link against you, sorry.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Wishing suffering on others is not new for you.

    The discussion will clearly demonstrate who has compassion and who does not.
    Ugh... naked deceit from you is all too typical.

    At no point did I wish suffering on anyone.

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