View Poll Results: Should Doctor assisted suicide be legal?

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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Wow. Causing someones death is objectively causing a harm. How in the hell is that something even up for discussion?



    Do you really think anything new is being talked about here? What exactly is new about the idea of helping someone else die?
    Again by definition that's not objective, why do you make stuff up, it's completely subjective, does this usually work here on this board?
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    It is up for discussion Henrin. Your sad attempts at constantly trying to color your oppositions stance as "stupid" will never work with some one who has the intellectual capacity to see your pathetic debating tactics for what they are.

    Subjectivity is very much in place her. Living can at times be more harmful for someone who is suffering a painful existence that no medical know how can alleviate. Thus in these cases, death - which leads to an end to pain - is far less harmful.

    That's logic 101 try it out sometime.




    What is new is the concept of accepting someone's choice to end their life and their choice to have someone assist them with it legally.
    Good post, you are correct of course backed up by context and the definitions of the words in question.

    Anyway I'm confused, again I know I'm new here but is just flat out denying the meaning of words common here? Is this the type of environment that is wanted or promoted, is everything meant to be debated or ignored even when facts already provide the answer?
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post

    Anyway I'm confused, again I know I'm new here but is just flat out denying the meaning of words common here? Is this the type of environment that is wanted or promoted, is everything meant to be debated or ignored even when facts already provide the answer?
    Yes there are a few for whom this is their M.O., but it's not that common in most threads. Just dont go in the abortion sub-forum and you'll miss alot of it.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I presented you with an ethical option that is very peaceful.

    Killing another human being in aggression remains evil and barbaric.

    If you killed a patient like that where I live, you would be convicted of murder and you would deserve that fate.
    Is this the type of poster you are, keep repeating a fallacy in hopes people will believe it? There is no aggression in assisted suicide, a link was provided and context already proves this.

    This place seems like it might be weird hahaha but entertaining at least.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    This is one of those issues where I'm left stunned that anybody actually opposes this. I can understand heavy regulation, but an outright ban? Really?

    People have the right to end their own life. Period. It's to the point that with drug prohibition, prostitution bans, forced pregnancies through abortion bans, and these suicide bans, we are basically asserting that the state has total control over our bodies. And it's ironically "limited government" advocates giving them said control.
    I whole hearty agree . .. . as you can see though, so far there hasn't been any sound reasoning to be against it. I've only seen manufactured feelings and out right lies. There's good reason for regulation though just like you said.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Certain posters yes, as you've noted, but please dont let that scare you off. Most are quite reasonable and we welcome new people.
    Well I do admit I haven't read a lot yet, many do seem nice, civil and educated to a basic extent whether I agree with tier views or not. I've just never seen such flat out dishonesty before. I mean where I was before there were extremists of course and racists etc but I've never seen somebody just ignore a definition and make up their own. There is no aggression in assisted suicide, I don't even understand how anybody could suggest otherwise. Seems the majority here have a handle on these types of post though, you just gang up on them, point out their holes, flaws and how incorrect they are. Don't get me wrong debate is fun, on something that is actually debatable, but just making up lies is weird. Thanks for the welcome btw.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    There is nothing dishonest in my statement. I think you have a right to kill yourself if you want to, as a function of your rights to liberty and property. I do not think it is ever permissible to kill another human in aggression, as a function of the right to life.



    Given your wretched output thus far, trolling in virtually every post, hopefully you'll just keep on bouncing.
    Again nobody here is talking about killing another human in aggression, that is the dishonest part you keep repeating and that many others have pointed out to you. What do you base that on? I was going to provide links showing your statement is wrong but others already did that. So I'm asking you besides your feelings and opinions what do you have that lends support to your statement and makes it honest

    Trolling? Guess that's another word along with aggression you don't understand. I bet you have a lot of friends and supporters here huh? hahaha. Not that it matters but that can be very telling. I think I'll take the advice of the majority here that showed your posts to be wrong and bounced it to pieces. Thanks for the entertainment Jay.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    If an innocent living human being, clearly not attacking you, is in your presence and you perform an act that kills them, then yeah, that is the initiation of force, lethal force. That is the very definition of aggression. It is a homicide. It should be prosecuted as murder.

    Kevorkian was prosecuted and convicted for murder for that very reason.
    Sorry but in the real word, the dictionary and English language all disagree with you. You can keep trying to sell those lies but as you see people just make fun of them.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Again by definition that's not objective, why do you make stuff up, it's completely subjective, does this usually work here on this board?
    How is killing someone not harming them?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Using your made up definition assisted suicide is not aggression. Your own definition and a link to the dictionary all prove your statement to be in accurate. Do you have anything else?
    Ok, how do kill someone and not inflict harm on them?

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