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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    FYI, JayDubya's an atheist.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I don't share personal details with you people.

    I do know a lot about this topic but how is my business.
    If you have, then you know someone who faces death - it is a unique experience for each person.

    Suffering is unique and individual as well. It is not just physical pain - it is emotional as well. It can be unwavering nausea. It can be unrelenting dwelling on what might have been. It can be a feeling of heat or cold that nothing seems to help.

    It can be so different. Neither one of us should judge what they are and are not willing to put up with.

    Letting a person who is awake and alert dehydrate to death as their recourse to unrelenting suffering? My gracious - either you are too young and nave to realize what you are saying or you lack even a trace of compassion.

    There are a lot of reasons to be against physician assisted suicide - but your suggestion is

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    A patient should be able to choose death in the event that they have a condition with no prospects for treatment and that results in excruciating pain and suffering. The process would have to be highly regulated, with well defined standards for informing the patient about the process and evaluating the patient's ability to consent to doctor assisted suicide.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post

    Dehydration has symptoms that can be palliated.
    And that relief from pain from another person is enabling, assisting.

    It's also called mercy, compassion.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    If you have, then you know someone who faces death - it is a unique experience for each person.
    Okay.

    Suffering is unique and individual as well. It is not just physical pain - it is emotional as well. It can be unwavering nausea. It can be unrelenting dwelling on what might have been. It can be a feeling of heat or cold that nothing seems to help.

    It can be so different. Neither one of us should judge what they are and are not willing to put up with.
    I didn't judge any such thing.

    I explained an ethical way to accomplish the goal that does not involve anyone killing anyone else.

    Letting a person who is awake and alert dehydrate to death as their recourse to unrelenting suffering?
    If they have decided they want to die, that is an option available to them.

    My gracious - either you are too young and nave to realize what you are saying
    Or perhaps you are too ignorant of the facts if you think that the symptoms of dehydration cannot be palliated or think that this is some alien concept and no one has ever done this before.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And that relief from pain from another person is enabling, assisting.
    Sure. Palliation of symptoms is the same thing as deliberately killing folks. Uh-huh.

    I remember you said this earlier. I remember I pointed out that it was

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    I would implore you not to take offense. The hospice workers I've interacted with have been wonderful people (I volunteer with a hospice).
    I have a friend that is a hospice nurse. There are doctors in the country that will hasten the death of the terminally ill.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post

    Or perhaps you are too ignorant of the facts if you think that the symptoms of dehydration cannot be palliated or think that this is some alien concept and no one has ever done this before.
    With water?

    With so many drugs they cannot wake up enough to realize they are dying of thirst?

    In a hospice situation, water is not intentionally withheld - especially if they are asking for it!!!!!Ask yourself why.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    With water?

    With so many drugs they cannot wake up enough to realize they are dying of thirst?
    Uhh that's the whole point, if they want to die. I'm not saying sedate them to the point of unconsciousness. Lack of water will cause unconsciousness just fine on its own.

    In a hospice situation, water is not intentionally withheld - especially if they are asking for it!!!!!Ask yourself why.
    Because the risk of aspiration in a patient with dysphagia (and a terminal diagnosis) is viewed as secondary importance compared to the desires / comfort of the patient.

    In this case, it's a deliberate thing; if the patient wants to die, then they're not going to ask for water.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Sure. Palliation of symptoms is the same thing as deliberately killing folks. Uh-huh.

    I remember you said this earlier. I remember I pointed out that it was
    You know what's ?

    Thinking that providing something that enables someone to commit suicide isnt assisting them.

    After all, they cant prescribe the drugs for themselves, can they? Are you suggesting they just take a bunch of aspirin?

    And by the time someone is terminal, or in incapacitating pain, or weak from dehydration, how do they run to the drug store and get them for themselves? Or even the next room?

    Yup, that's assisting.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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