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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Seeing words that are not there. As usual.

    I'm sorry but you equated palliation to assisted suicide in this thread; that's too offensive and too crazy for anything you say right now to be taken seriously. In your rush to score points against me in some fight you're dragging from thread to thread, you have leapt yourself onto a completely untenable and insane position.
    Thank you, I didnt expect you to provide the evidence yourself.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    There's no practical difference between a dnr with no iv fluids, no hospitalization stipulations and a guy who is alert and just refuses to drink.

    As a HCP you can force fluids on them without their consent, or not. If you respect patient autonomy, you don't force the fluids. That doesn't mean you can't alleviate other symptoms if that is a service that is desired.

    Lack of water is what's going to kill you, because you don't want water. The HCP is not assisting in your lack of water, that's on you, because they're respecting your autonomy and you said "don't do it."

    This ain't rocket surgery.
    Last edited by JayDubya; 02-06-15 at 04:48 PM.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Thank you, I didnt expect you to provide the evidence yourself.
    Case in point with the "words that aren't there" business.


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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Case in point with the "words that aren't there" business.

    Exactly. Making up your own definitions doesnt make them 'real.' You can keep proving my point or attempt to rejoin the discussion using real words and definitions.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Doctors are trained for years to keep people alive and promote health. They are uniquely overqualified to be killing people. Why not train non-medical people in how to "mercifully" kill people? Is that morally objectionable if all persons involved are willing to do it?

    *I know the above may sound odd, but it is a serious question.
    There's a few ethical lines you're not just crossing here but gleefully skipping over, then pissing back over the other side.

    Doctors are supposed to heal and help, not kill.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    So refuse treatment, refuse food, and refuse water.

    You will die soon enough and no one else will be responsible for that death but you.
    There are cases where this is not accepted ..
    An enforced, and well known "living will" is a MUST.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Doctors are trained for years to keep people alive and promote health. They are uniquely overqualified to be killing people. Why not train non-medical people in how to "mercifully" kill people? Is that morally objectionable if all persons involved are willing to do it?

    *I know the above may sound odd, but it is a serious question.
    Places of care are not places of death. Why would a place with the purpose of caring for people hire people with the sole purpose of killing people?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    There's a few ethical lines you're not just crossing here but gleefully skipping over, then pissing back over the other side.

    Doctors are supposed to heal and help, not kill.
    Wrong .. When the healing and helping are ineffective and the patient is in pain where not even marijuana helps .. Then what ?? ... And it will, IMO, take a well qualified doctor to "speed up" this process .

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Places of care are not places of death. Why would a place with the purpose of caring for people hire people with the sole purpose of killing people?
    What about hospices?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    There's a few ethical lines you're not just crossing here but gleefully skipping over, then pissing back over the other side.

    Doctors are supposed to heal and help, not kill.
    And they wouldn't be killing. Though I guess that would raise the question of who would do the training.

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