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Thread: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    His definition is if they are not actively helping them tie the noose around their then it's not assistance.

    But yes even if they only provide them with the stool for just that purpose, they have still assisted in the suicide.
    His definitions are rarely founded in reality. And that has been proven, not ad hom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you cannot give your "right to life" to another person, unalienable rights are not transferable.
    Exactly right. You can only kill someone else in self defense. A doctor has no justifiable reason to kill their patient. They are not in danger and all they are doing is harming someone else. That's not only against their oath, but against basic human rights.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    A murder is taking the life from someone who did not want to die. You are creating a strawman.

    Assisted suicide is not murder. The individual dying simply asked for a medical professional to administer them the cocktail needed to peacefully end their lives. The individual then takes the concoction on their own. It's their choice. Their UNALIENABLE RIGHT to their own life.
    No murder is a specific criminal charge levied against the alleged perpetrator(s) of a homicide.

    Kevorkian was convicted of murder. He was a murderer. That conviction was entirely appropriate. Any doctor who does what he did is violating human rights as well as medical ethics; they should be thrown into prison forever.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    His definitions are rarely founded in reality. And that has been proven, not ad hom.
    Projection, as usual.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    If someone chooses to assist them under professional knowledge that is also their right.
    And I disagree with that. I do not have the right to kill you or anyone else just because you want me to end your life. I can not strip from your life on such terms even if you want me to.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    My mother died from pancreatic cancer. In her final days she asked my brother to kill her. If I knew then what I know now, I'd have done it. We went to bed one night and a hospice nurse sat with her. At some time during the night she threw up in her mouth and was unable to turn her head and clear her through. She gargled on it for god knows how long until I woke up, with the nurse sitting there watching her. We cleared her mouth and she died shortly after. You're damned right that when there was no hope of quality of life and the only thing she had to look forward to was suffering, I'd have gladly ended her misery.
    I just posted a similar experience recently. My mother died from bone cancer. A once vibrant, active athletic woman was in such excruciating pain at the end we couldn't even touch her. She stopped fighting the pain after a while. The first decent sleep I got in 3 months happened the night she died. If she had asked me to find her a doctor to help her out of her misery, I would have done it in a second.
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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    No it's not different. You are against the right of a medical professional choosing to end the suffering of an individual at that individuals request.

    A Medical professional has every right to compassionately choose to assist. And the medical professional is NOT a barbarian or an aggressive murderer for doing so.

    That is where the contention between you and I lays.
    Wrong. A medical professional has the duty to not harm their patient. It is a breach of medical ethics dating back to the time of Hippocrates for medical professionals to involve themselves in such things.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Projection, as usual.
    It's not projecting when the posts demonstrating my claim are shown both in this thread and others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's not projecting when the posts demonstrating my claim are shown both in this thread and others.
    Seeing words that are not there. As usual.

    I'm sorry but you equated palliation to assisted suicide in this thread; that's too offensive and too crazy for anything you say right now to be taken seriously. In your rush to score points against me in some fight you're dragging from thread to thread, you have leapt yourself onto a completely untenable and insane position.

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    Re: Should American adopt the right to Doctor Assisted Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Wrong. A medical professional has the duty to not harm their patient. It is a breach of medical ethics dating back to the time of Hippocrates for medical professionals to involve themselves in such things.
    Doctors are trained for years to keep people alive and promote health. They are uniquely overqualified to be killing people. Why not train non-medical people in how to "mercifully" kill people? Is that morally objectionable if all persons involved are willing to do it?

    *I know the above may sound odd, but it is a serious question.

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