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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Ignorance makes it harder. Most people who you would label as partisan hacks simply don't know very much. They don't know a lot about their own side, and they know almost nothing about the other. Or any of the myriad other positions that aren't mainstream R or D. Most don't know that such a thing is possible.

    Ignorance is what keeps us back.
    I'm not so sure I would say ignorance as much as stubbornness.
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm not so sure I would say ignorance as much as stubbornness.
    I think stubbornness is born from ignorance.
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Partisanship is a team sport.

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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I think stubbornness is born from ignorance.
    Pride.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Some comments make me think, some make me laugh, some make me shake my head. I am sure others do the same when reading my opinions. Life goes on. We can't take ourselves, or others, too serious. Chances are, we won't change anything by getting upset.

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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Ignorance makes it harder. Most people who you would label as partisan hacks simply don't know very much. They don't know a lot about their own side, and they know almost nothing about the other. Or any of the myriad other positions that aren't mainstream R or D. Most don't know that such a thing is possible.

    Ignorance is what keeps us back.
    I have to agree with this 100% and add to it . . . .

    It's partisanship, ignorance and lastly arrogance/close mindedness.

    I will be the first to admit there are things politically I simply do not know and it seems many could never say that statement without a gun being held to their head and or throwing up hahaha.

    Many people have all of these things which could probably just be described as ignorance like you said but I think its important to point them out.
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Only if they are rigid in their views and that closes their minds to even considering other viewpoints. How can you disagree vehemently with something if you havent even understood it?

    Unfortunately you see it alot here on the forum and then they accuse me of not really being a liberal because of my views on things like guns or immigration. It's called seeing reality and not being locked into thought patterns and trapped in believing what you want to hear, not what's true.
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Only if they are rigid in their views and that closes their minds to even considering other viewpoints. How can you disagree vehemently with something if you havent even understood it?

    Unfortunately you see it alot here on the forum and then they accuse me of not really being a liberal because of my views on things like guns or immigration. It's called seeing reality and not being locked into thought patterns and trapped in believing what you want to hear, not what's true.
    This is a big one, I have conversations with friends that do this sometimes. A topic will come up that I only know a little bit about and they are totally for it or totally against it but when I ask questions about it they really don't know any details.....WTF?! hahahah people are funny sometimes . . . .
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    It isn't just politics; very few people are willing to debate any controversial topic rationally. Even when there's just a small amount of emotion involved, it trumps facts and logic. I would roughly estimate that 1% of the population is willing to debate rationally, so the only way you can have a rational debate is when you find two people like that, and they also have to be on opposite sides of the issue. I've never seen it happen.
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    Re: Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?

    Does Partisanship make it difficult for people to discuss politics?
    no. it makes it damned near impossible. especially when the only choices are A and B, and the supporters of both A and B hate their respective choices, but vote for and fight for them anyway.

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