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Should Brian Williams be fired

Should Brian be fired?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 60.0%

  • No

    Votes: 24 40.0%
  • Total voters
    60
Doesnt an anchor read news? Does his credibility make the news that he reads any more credible? Its not like he writes the news. He just reads what his employer tells him to read right? Maybe his employer wrote the lie that he told about Iraq.
 
The decision should be made by his employers. If they think he's done a good job as an anchor, I hope they won't and that his humiliation is enough.
 
sawdust said:
Here's what I don't understand. The media regularly orchestrates stories about public policy in which they either stretch the truth, omit facts or twist statistics. These things they do in the coarse of their regular reporting. Slanted media does much more harm to the country than what one news anchor says about him self.

Save your righteous indignation for those things that are important and affect our lives. That's why so many have disdain for MSNBC and Fox. Things they say affect us. Brian Williams story does not.
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Nice try, adding MSNBC to make yourself appear credible. :roll:

Are you related to Brian Williams? :roll: :roll: "Libertarian-Right".....riiiight.
 
nota bene said:
The decision should be made by his employers. If they think he's done a good job as an anchor, I hope they won't and that his humiliation is enough.
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Agreed. Suspend the guy for a week or even two if they have to and that would be more than fitting.

This entire things reeks of hypocrisy on the part of the right wing since they have been waiting for such an opportunity to attack the hated NBC for a very long time now. I strongly suspect that if any of the journalistic icons of the right did something like this they would be advocating the same thing.
 
haymarket said:
Agreed. Suspend the guy for a week or even two if they have to and that would be more than fitting.

This entire things reeks of hypocrisy on the part of the right wing since they have been waiting for such an opportunity to attack the hated NBC for a very long time now. I strongly suspect that if any of the journalistic icons of the right did something like this they would be advocating the same thing.
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Not everybody sees everything through partisan-colored glasses.
 
nota bene said:
Not everybody sees everything through partisan-colored glasses.
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That is true. In this case however, the glasses have been on and are obvious.
 
nota bene said:
Not everybody sees everything through partisan-colored glasses.
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Amen.

Although, you spend too much time around here, and everything is partisan. I could mention that I am enjoying a nice cold glass of orange juice, and somebody here would turn it into a partisan argument.
 
Superfly said:
Amen.

Although, you spend too much time around here, and everything is partisan. I could mention that I am enjoying a nice cold glass of orange juice, and somebody here would turn it into a partisan argument.
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Well, missy, just where did those oranges come from? :mrgreen:
 
Superfly said:
Amen.

Although, you spend too much time around here, and everything is partisan. I could mention that I am enjoying a nice cold glass of orange juice, and somebody here would turn it into a partisan argument.
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Well Florida orange jucie is the RIGHT kind of orange juice, California ornage juice LEFT me with a bad taste in my mouth ;)
 
Fearandloathing said:
maybe..

But it is not your call. It is the call of his employer....not someone who wants him censored because he disagrees.

If this is correct, he has committed what this journalist considers a heinous crime, he has damaged the reputation of his employer, the media and the profession. As a journalist I would pursue this story to the deepest depths, a full throttle investigation over every story he has ever covered. But then I operate on rules we have here....

From what I have seen of the US media, this is no big thing. Fox, MSNBC, CNN all have so-called reporters and commentators lying through their teeth, so why should he be singled out?
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Can you name a lie by any other reporter comparable to this whopper?Dan Rather not included.:lol:
 
Superfly said:
Meh, I like Brian Williams, and will continue to watch him as long as he anchors.

I'd like everyone who has never told a lie, ever in their lives, to raise their hand.

Yup. That's what I thought.
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Hey if you want to get your news from a guy that is a compulsive liar and or has no sense of reality that is your choice but please don't vote based on anything he tells you.
 
nota bene said:
The decision should be made by his employers. If they think he's done a good job as an anchor, I hope they won't and that his humiliation is enough.
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The problem is that his employers are as big of sacks of @#$! as he is.
 
nota bene said:
The decision should be made by his employers. If they think he's done a good job as an anchor, I hope they won't and that his humiliation is enough.
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He is definitely humiliated, and the more I hear/see/read, the more I think he should be humiliated. This was an obviously disingenuous story.

I don't watch him much so I don't know if he's done a good job at anchoring. I haven't got any opinion on what NBC should do about him as I said in my first post in this thread. Not my call, not my worry, not only because I'm not his manager, but also because I don't own any shares of his employer's company.

But if they do eventually remove him or demote him, I would agree with their decision only because he's in the words business, and nothing else. An anchor gets paid to deliver the facts, and deliver them with credibility. Unfortunately he screwed up at that.

He is the best in that timeslot though.
 
He should be forced to suffer the humiliation of seeing his daughter do an oral-anal sex scene. Oh wait...
 
nota bene said:
The decision should be made by his employers. If they think he's done a good job as an anchor, I hope they won't and that his humiliation is enough.
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It is one thing to be that guy at the tavern bragging about his "experiences" in harm's way but when you do it on national tv it is another story.
He is just like the vet who likes to embellish to the point of outright lie. Ever so often these guys are outed.

I would think he would just resign. How in the hell can you face the camera after telling that kind of a lie?
 
ironhorse said:
REALLY good point!
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I read this morning that Tom Brokaw wants him fired.
You know you’re in trouble when Tom Brokaw is out for your blood.

NBC’s most revered journalist is furious that Brian Williams is still in the anchor chair after he sheepishly admitted he hadn’t traveled on a helicopter hit by enemy fire.

“Brokaw wants Williams’ head on a platter,” an NBC source said. “He is making a lot of noise at NBC that a lesser journalist or producer would have been immediately fired or suspended for a false report.”
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Tom Brokaw wants Brian Williams fired | Page Six
 
countryboy said:
Nice try, adding MSNBC to make yourself appear credible. :roll:

Are you related to Brian Williams? :roll: :roll: "Libertarian-Right".....riiiight.
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I said this before. Let the market decide Williams fate. It's not my business if Williams works and it's not your's either. This social media obsession with some else life is one of the problems that America has. The internet lets people stick their noses where they don't belong. This is between Williams and his boss in the short term. In the long run, ratings will decide Williams future. Personally, I don't care what happens because it doesn't affect me personally. You shouldn't give a **** either unless you work for NBC news.
 
TerryOfromCA said:
NBC is in the hip pocket of the biggest liar to ever be president, the pig Obama. Is it any wonder that they lie too?
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Uh that hardly singles out NBC. the MSM is full of Obama Fluffers. the only issue is which of the big three is the worst
 
ironhorse said:
I say yes! What a freakin liar! How can anyone believe a word he says now? The man has lost all credibility.

NBC Nightly News” anchor Brian Williams last night had to make the humiliating admission that he was not aboard a helicopter hit by RPG fire during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a false claim that he made and was repeated by the network for years.

Williams — who’d claimed he was in a chopper forced down by a rocket-propelled grenade 12 years ago — repeated the story on Friday’s newscast during a tribute for a retired sergeant major.

“The story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq, when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG,” Williams said on Friday’s show. “Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armor-mechanized platoon from the US Army 3rd Infantry.”


He was busted when vet Lance Reynolds commented on the “Nightly News” Facebook page, where the clip was posted, “Sorry, dude, I don’t remember you being on my aircraft. I do remember you walking up about an hour after we had landed to ask me what had happened.”

Amid a vicious ratings battle with ABC’s “World News Tonight,” which has positioned anchor David Muir as an equally strong on-the-scene reporter, Williams, who has a $10 million-a-year deal with NBC, made an embarrassing apology.

He claimed on Facebook that he had confused events: “I spent much of the weekend thinking I’d gone crazy. I feel terrible about making this mistake.” Stars and Stripes, which broke the story, reported that a different Chinook was hit by rockets and “the NBC anchor was nowhere near that aircraft . . . Williams arrived in the area about an hour later on another helicopter.”


Brian Williams admits he wasn’t on helicopter hit by RPG in Iraq | Page Six
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This is too big of an embarrassment to not be fired. You cannot have your main news anchor exposed as a big stinking liar in one of his most defining news stories like Williams is now.

He is a good at reading the news, but a news anchor also has to have a moral high ground from which he reports/talks to people he interviews. How would he ever be able to call someone on a lie he told (say a politician) when he himself can be shown to also be a liar? It seriously limits his effectiveness as a news anchor/reporter.
 
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NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams left out key facts in war story apology, report says | Fox News

The story is starting to get convoluted, and apparently Williams was wrong about other things.....though it's possible some of them not necessarily on purpose. Even the pilot of the helicopter Williams was on admitted that war stories get screwed up. So his general admission that he wasn't on the aircraft that got hit by RPG, should be sufficient. All other facts that I've read about could easily get screwed up by someone in the back of an aircraft who may not have been informed about who he was actually flying with or that they had changed course due to the sand storm. They showed up at the landing site where the damaged helicopter was, and he could have believed that he was in the "following" helicopter. Did he know they were going in the opposite direction of the helicopter that was actually hit, who knows. The guy should pay for his mistake, but who wants to believe that Williams should have known the flight plan in detail and all other units flying in the area?
 
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