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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    We are today the ONLY nation in ALL of Europe that has a growing jewish community and not a declining one!

    We are the safest nation in Europe for jews to live in!

    We are the nation that raises it`s children to remember that Auschwitz can never happen again!

    We are the nation that made it`s biggest mistakes part of it`s national identety!

    We are a nation that isnt so arrogant to proclaim that we finished learning from history, but claims to still be learning!

    And I have every right to be proud of how far we have come as a nation since 1949!




    Now show me the great lessons the South has learned in comparission! Show me if any of it`s mistakes even made it into the cultural conciousness of these people!
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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    It's funny to watch a Southerner and a German right argue about who is most racist. You both have racist histories. Now make up and kiss.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-04-15 at 03:22 PM.
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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    So why should I not be intolerant of a bunch of backwards morons dreaming of days when slavery was still legal?
    I think there are more people in America who wish the Red Army had taken the whole of Germany at the end of WWII than there are those who wish for the return of slavery

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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's funny to watch a Southerner and a German right argue about who is most racist. You both have racist histories. Now make up and go on a WP march together.
    Unlike them, we actualy learned from history.



    Imagine what would happen to a person if they marched down Alexanderplatz in Berlin with a swastiker flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I think there are more people in America who wish the Red Army had taken the whole of Germany at the end of WWII than there are those who wish for the return of slavery
    What?

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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Unlike them, we actualy learned from history.



    Imagine what would happen to a person if they marched down Alexanderplatz in Berlin with a swastiker flag?

    What?
    You know, I edited that post because I realized that being Southern or German doesn't necessarily mean you support WP notions. Southern racism has taken a new face that is world's apart from what it used to be. German racism has done the same. A country making laws to end racism doesn't change the mentality of ideological supporters or do you think Nazi sympathies ended with the Nazis?
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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You know, I edited that post because I realized that being Southern or German doesn't necessarily mean you support WP notions. Southern racism has taken a new face that is world's apart from what it used to be. German racism has done the same. A country making laws to end racism doesn't change the mentality of ideological supporters or do you think Nazi sympathies ended with the Nazis?
    No. And it would be childish to think that.

    I never claimed that there is no racism.

    What I do however claim is that there is a cultural impulse in Germany to learn from history.

    Most racism and far right extremism in Germany is constrained to the east which didnt create that same egalitarian impulse during the communist dictatorship.

    Now where is there even the slightest bit off effort to learn from history in a place like Alabama or Mississipi?

    There is none.

    Your country essentialy has this cultural tumor sticking to it, which had to be forced into giving up it`s evil ways and now acts like a spoiled 12 year old who is being punished for being naughty.

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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    So why should I not be intolerant of a bunch of backwards morons dreaming of days when slavery was still legal?
    Well I'm glad you know the majority thoughts of all southern people...

    I've lived in the South most my life, since I was two years old. I'm 25 now..... all my time in Georgia, I have only encountered 1 racist southern family... only 1. Out of the tens of thousands of people I met in my life.... only one. And it was an ex girlfriends extended family from redneck Florida. It was mainly her grand-parents, and they had the ability to debate with me on the subject without be inflammatory. And I vigorously debated with them, but they described how they have an old black lady friend who comes over who expresses the same view that they both should have the same rights, but not mix. I obviously disagreed with them... but they are from a different time and have avid favoritism for their own children and grand-children and don't want them to make bad choices with their lives.... that's what they are most concerned about

    My college roommates a year ago...I lived with 5 other people. They were from middle of nowhere Georgia... they put a confederate flag in our living room and a bobcat taxidermy statue in a counter. And we had one black roommate from their same area who was just as southern as them and he didn't care at all..... in fact half of the people they invited over to the house were black, all from the same area...
    Now, they were an intense group of people that for sure... all smoked weed and cocaine... interesting to look into that culture and a little frightening. All armed with guns... half going to college in a tech school close to mine.

    You're bigotry towards the south is paranoia... there are racists that exist.... but nowhere near the scope you seem to think. Also, every criticism of black culture does not mean a hidden racism...

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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The question is pretty straight forward.
    I'd go with maybe. And on both sides. The never talk about it side is as bad as the lets always talk about it side. The fact remains, it is still a factor today, like it or not.

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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    The race card is beyond overused, it is obnoxious and stale. And yes, it is Welcome to Forbes.
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    Yes, the race card is overplayed...leastways here on this forum.

    However, I'm scratching my head on this one; "essentially ubiquitous from folks on the left." How can that be when it's the right that constantly brings up the topic of race??????
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    Re: Has "racism" been overplayed as a bludgeon to use on political opponents?

    Perhaps...on the other hand, it should be ovbvious to any thoughtful american that isnt afraid of his or her own reflection that the usa is anti-individual. Not only that but foriegners overseas are also against american individualism. Racism is only one aspect of the religious totalitarianism and obsessessive harassment of the individual who is forced to vote and harrassed to voluntarily do things like join the military. We might call the usa a land of harassed to voluntarism and generalization. We are not intelligent enough as americans to have a more neutral society, being prone to capitalist revisionism toward a more fascist ideal.

    To test this observation, merely imagine a single american who is peaceful, feels voting is agressive, doesnt want to go to war, and dosnt care about accumulating massive amounts of capital. This type of person wopuld recieve the death sentence.
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