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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    For those who say legalize it and tax it. Would you be willing to say legalize it and NOT tax it?
    I wouldnt for the simple reason it will need regulated both FDA wise and law wise and that will take on additional money that should be provided by the industry . . but thats just my two cents . . .
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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    glad to see you have not studied history
    Yeah? What history are you referring to?

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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah? What history are you referring to?
    1) prohibition

    2) the war on drugs



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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    How's your consistency? Should alcohol be illegal again?
    It's a common worry that legalization of drugs would lead to massive increase in abuse and addiction but addiction is a bigger problem now than it was before prohibition. In Portugal, they decriminalized drugs about 14 years ago and the addiction rate dropped.

    Ten Years After Decriminalization, Drug Abuse Down by Half in Portugal - Forbes
    "Ten years ago, Portugal decriminalized all drugs. One decade after this unprecedented experiment, drug abuse is down by half:"



    Drug addicts commit crimes because the drug they're addicted to is very expensive. I say, give addicts their drug, or sell it to them very cheap. The drug problem isn't that some losers are wasting their lives, the problem is they're stealing from you and me to do it. Prohibition hasn't worked at all- I doubt even one person is deterred from trying drugs because of the laws against it. Let's try a different solution.
    And let's make very sure we're not trying to legislate morality.
    We tried making alcohol illegal once, it didn't work out very well. No way I would want to go down that road again. Besides, I like to tip one back every now and then just like most folks.

    With weed, it's illegal now, and I'm quite happy with the status quo. I don't think society benefits from having a million more stoners laying around in front of their playstations, and I believe that legalization would lead to more people abusing the drug.

    I take a practical approach to the issue.

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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) prohibition

    2) the war on drugs
    You would really have to stretch to draw parallels between prohibition and the current war on drugs. Alcohol use is much, much more widespread, accepted, and the demand for alcohol is much higher than marijuana or any other drug.

    Prohibition failed because, ultimately, the general public wanted to drink. Thankfully, the general public doesn't want to get stoned..... that's pretty much left up to old hippies and teenagers.

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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You would really have to stretch to draw parallels between prohibition and the current war on drugs. Alcohol use is much, much more widespread, accepted, and the demand for alcohol is much higher than marijuana or any other drug.

    Prohibition failed because, ultimately, the general public wanted to drink. Thankfully, the general public doesn't want to get stoned..... that's pretty much left up to old hippies and teenagers.
    having spent almost a quarter of a century of my life watching the "war on drugs" up close and personal, I have concluded that it is a failure. It has given the government powers never intended in the Constitution and indeed, the federal war on drugs required a complete mutation of the Commerce Clause to even justify this crap. The abrogation of freedoms guaranteed by the Fourth, Fifth and other amendments are colossal and the millions of lives ruined by this war-from innocent victims caught in gang gun play, to people sentenced to hard time for non-violent offenses is staggering. Plus the astronomical costs imposed on society.

    Drugs are bad-and I have little sympathy for people who screw up with drugs. But this war on drugs has caused far more problems than it as solved



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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    having spent almost a quarter of a century of my life watching the "war on drugs" up close and personal, I have concluded that it is a failure. It has given the government powers never intended in the Constitution and indeed, the federal war on drugs required a complete mutation of the Commerce Clause to even justify this crap. The abrogation of freedoms guaranteed by the Fourth, Fifth and other amendments are colossal and the millions of lives ruined by this war-from innocent victims caught in gang gun play, to people sentenced to hard time for non-violent offenses is staggering. Plus the astronomical costs imposed on society.

    Drugs are bad-and I have little sympathy for people who screw up with drugs. But this war on drugs has caused far more problems than it as solved
    I think you're placing the blame on the wrong people. If you don't want to end up in jail, don't peddle illegal substances. The people ruining lives are the producers and dealers of illegal substances, and the people who use them are enablers.

    In my mind, you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. If the war on drugs has been a failure, if it has resulted in unintended casualties, then the right question to ask is what can we do to ramp up our efforts in order to put the drug lords out of business?

    I listen to what you say and it leads me to believe that we should do MORE. We should crack down harder. Not give up.

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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think you're placing the blame on the wrong people. If you don't want to end up in jail, don't peddle illegal substances. The people ruining lives are the producers and dealers of illegal substances, and the people who use them are enablers.

    In my mind, you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. If the war on drugs has been a failure, if it has resulted in unintended casualties, then the right question to ask is what can we do to ramp up our efforts in order to put the drug lords out of business?

    I listen to what you say and it leads me to believe that we should do MORE. We should crack down harder. Not give up.

    that's a cop out. The war on drugs has been a failure for the public. Its been great for the government in terms of the power it has given the government, and the money it gets.

    your concept of libertarianism is really interesting to me based on those sentiments. what other constitutional rights do you want to jettison to advance this war? legalizing drugs will put the drug lords out of business faster than any of your constitutional-bruising schemes. and tell me where the federal government actually got a proper power to tell the citizens of say Colorado that they are violating FEDERAL drug laws by smoking reefer grown and sold exclusively inside that state?



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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We tried making alcohol illegal once, it didn't work out very well. No way I would want to go down that road again. Besides, I like to tip one back every now and then just like most folks.

    With weed, it's illegal now, and I'm quite happy with the status quo. I don't think society benefits from having a million more stoners laying around in front of their playstations, and I believe that legalization would lead to more people abusing the drug.

    I take a practical approach to the issue.
    Do you think there's a million people who don't smoke pot because it's illegal but would if it weren't? I don't think there's even one. And I instinctively say there's needs to be a damn good reason for every law and I just don't see it here.
    I think my approach is the practical one, but it's all smoke anyway. It'll be a long time before the political sophistication exists in North America to repeal the prohibition on drugs.
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    Re: National Legalization of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I wouldnt for the simple reason it will need regulated both FDA wise and law wise and that will take on additional money that should be provided by the industry . . but thats just my two cents . . .
    There are plenty of products on the market (supplements, etc.) which are not regulated by the FDA and if it is now a legal product, then what "law wise" are you describing?

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