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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    In this case, the additional context is that the "chocolate" reference in this cartoon is somehow referring to "black people". The problem is, there's no context within the cartoon to suggest that's the meaning or inference of chocolate in this case. There's no contextual way that his claim that everything he touches turns to sweet chocolate would make any sense within the cartoon if by "chocolate" he meant "black people". That makes zero sense. He thinks he can touch health care and turn it into black people? He touches foreign affairs and turn it into "black people"?
    This is a bunch of convoluted gobbledygook and is the result of very flawed thinking and I am going to demonstrate why. What you have done here is to concoct an absurd notion that in order for chocolate to reference black people that the activity of Obama touching something would result in it turning into a black person. This is absurd because chocolate is just a symbol and it should be obvious to you and anyone else that symbols can have multiple meanings. It's just like another conservative member of this forum has an avatar that has a picture of Ronald Reagan. When I see it, I think of Ronald Reagan, American conservatism, and a member of the forum here. According to your logic, I would need to be able to substitute Ronald Reagan into the role of a member of this forum for the avatar to make reference to Reagan. And because that is indeed absurd, your contention here is totally bogus.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    I didn't find it funny. I also didn't find it racist.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, it's absolutely with additional context. Your statement above directly suggest that. You're using context from your environment to shade how your viewing the cartoon, despite nothing in the cartoon itself actually suggesting in any way that it's reference to feces is meant as a reference to black people.
    What it appears that you don't get is that words have no inherent meaning. As such, all that anyone can do when they associate words with concepts, is to do it based on the context of the environment they have been exposed to. Like I said before, it is just like when someone speaks Spanish. It sounds like gobbledygook to me because I was not brought up in an environment where Spanish is spoken and never experienced the necessary conditioning to associate the words with the concepts.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually you didn't, and you also clearly didn't even understand it, considering your "explanation" went on a tangent about feces which had nothing to do what so ever with my statements regarding the chocolate bar.

    Nothing about the chocolate bar actually suggest that the grid pattern on the bar is referencing prison....but neither is anything in the cartoon itself suggesting in any fashion that the implication of feces is referencing skin color.
    No I understood exactly what you said. But what you apparently missed is that all you had in your picture is a chocolate bar. There is no prisoner, no prison, no prison bars, nothing but candy. In the cartoon there is reference to feces, chocolate and Obama. And because there is COMMON USAGE IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY of feces AND chocolate to refer to black people, the association between blacks, feces, and chocolate can be REALISTICALLY made, contrary to what you would have us believe.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No I understood exactly what you said. But what you apparently missed is that all you had in your picture is a chocolate bar. There is no prisoner, no prison, no prison bars, nothing but candy. In the cartoon there is reference to feces, chocolate and Obama. And because there is COMMON USAGE IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY of feces AND chocolate to refer to black people, the association between blacks, feces, and chocolate can be REALISTICALLY made, contrary to what you would have us believe.
    Wow! You are really in deep.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Considering the track record of the guy before him, Obama is King Midas. No one turned gold to **** faster than Bush the Junior.
    Not that it is important here but the entire Bush record, with all of its flaws, does not come close to the ****maker himself. Obama, The Insane One, is a one man wrecking ball.

    Now back to the previously scheduled Rorschach test.

    Here is my thought. Those who are racists will see racism. Those who are not will see the obvious.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Not that it is important here but the entire Bush record, with all of its flaws, does not come close to the ****maker himself. Obama, The Insane One, is a one man wrecking ball.

    Now back to the previously scheduled Rorschach test.

    Here is my thought. Those who are racists will see racism. Those who are not will see the obvious.
    Considering you don't see Bush's failure as a president while thinking the Black guy is one, I'd say you're about as credible as Brian Williams.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Not that it is important here but the entire Bush record, with all of its flaws, does not come close to the ****maker himself. Obama, The Insane One, is a one man wrecking ball.

    Now back to the previously scheduled Rorschach test.

    Here is my thought. Those who are racists will see racism. Those who are not will see the obvious.
    "The Insane One"!
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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Considering you don't see Bush's failure as a president while thinking the Black guy is one, I'd say you're about as credible as Brian Williams.
    I will let the historians decide about Bush. Which black guy? The Insane One? He is 1/6th black, 1/6th white and 2/3rds red.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "The Insane One"!
    How else can you explain his actions?

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