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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Of course not, where wold be the racist part?
    He's claiming that there is some old joke about "If black is beautiful then my poop is a masterpiece", I've never heard that joke, but his claim is that therefore any implicit reference to poop being brown is racist.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He's claiming that there is some old joke about "If black is beautiful then my poop is a masterpiece", I've never heard that joke, but his claim is that therefore any implicit reference to poop being brown is racist.
    So the purpose of his poll, and all of his whiny posts throughout the rest of the thread, are because he takes offense to a joke (never heard that one, BTW) and he has decided that this cartoon is somehow a play on or related to that joke?
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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He's claiming that there is some old joke about "If black is beautiful then my poop is a masterpiece", I've never heard that joke, but his claim is that therefore any implicit reference to poop being brown is racist.
    So basically the racism part is pure invention . . . . .

    I'm mean unless the creator comes out and specifically says "yes I made it to make fun of black people and their skin color because they are all just pieces of ****" there's zero racism in the cartoon alone.

    Any claim of racism is an assumption and not based on the cartoon itself.
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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So the purpose of his poll, and all of his whiny posts throughout the rest of the thread, are because he takes offense to a joke (never heard that one, BTW) and he has decided that this cartoon is somehow a play on or related to that joke?
    Well he didn't lay it out at first so I'm not sure if he actually came to that conclusion when he first saw it, or if he saw the cartoon, assumed it was racist, posted it, and then had to go find a justification.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    So basically the racism part is pure invention . . . . .

    I'm mean unless the creator comes out and specifically says "yes I made it to make fun of black people and their skin color because they are all just pieces of ****" there's zero racism in the cartoon alone.

    Any claim of racism is an assumption and not based on the cartoon itself.
    Yeah, but when you point that out to him, he tells you that it's "just your opinion" and to stop "pontificating"

    Welcome to the forum, btw.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, but when you point that out to him, he tells you that it's "just your opinion" and to stop "pontificating"

    Welcome to the forum, btw.
    He can make any claim he wants but people, typically, need some type of evidence to buy into something. So it seems he is out of luck

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Strange how Yes has 1005 votes, but only 3 names.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sans additional context, there's absolutely ZERO ways to rationally claim that said cartoon is inherently "racist" in it's message or intent. You could claim it MIGHT be racist, but even then that'd be a rather difficult position to strongly back up given the amount of assumptions the person would have to use to justify the logical leaps needed to make it racist in nature.
    You used the word inherently here. The thing is this, the word nigger is not inherently racist, as anyone can be a nigger. However, because of it's contextual usage in the U.S. and elsewhere, if a cartoonist made reference to Obama with the word nigger, it would generally be considered racist, despite the fact that there is nothing inherently racist about the term.

    It is a fact that there is quite of bit of contextual usage of feces to refer to the skin of blacks in a derogatory fashion. Here's a reference for you in case you need one:

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/****skin

    ****skin

    Noun

    ****skin (plural ****skins)

    (ethnic slur, derogatory, offensive) A person with dark-coloured skin.
    Also chocolate has been used to refer to blacks, although not necessarily in a derogatory way. Here's a reference for you that you may be familiar with

    CNN.com - Nagin apologizes for 'chocolate' city comments - Jan 17, 2006

    As I have said before, the cartoon makes subtle associations between to Obama, chocolate, and feces. As such, given the contextual usage of the terms, as I have demonstrated, there is good reason to say that it is racist. I don't object to those who feel the opposite. What I object to is the insistence that it is absurd to view it in that way. And IF your contention is that there are an enormous amount of assumptions that one must make in order for it to be seen as racist, I object to that also.
    Last edited by MildSteel; 02-04-15 at 02:28 PM.

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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, but when you point that out to him, he tells you that it's "just your opinion" and to stop "pontificating"
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    Re: Is this cartoon racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Strange how Yes has 1005 votes, but only 3 names.
    I've seen that quite a bit when the polls are lopsided and the liberal side has few votes. The numbers start shooting up without any names associated to it.

    As long as "unregistered" can vote, the polls here are less than useless. I guess the whole "voter ID" thing is rejected by the admin(s)
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