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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Might not have a choice.
    Of course the US has that choice. And since the Ukraine is not a US ally nor in the vital security interest of the US the choice is clear.

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleming View Post
    Of course the US has that choice. And since the Ukraine is not a US ally nor in the vital security interest of the US the choice is clear.
    And if the Russians decide to expand their interests into attacking the Balkan states? Who ARE U.S. allies and members of NATO?

    Should the U.S. go to war to protect them? Because allowing the Russians to have Ukraine will lead to that. Most confrontations are perception based. Not on a cold blooded analysis of interests.

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    And if the Russians decide to expand their interests into attacking the Balkan states? Who ARE U.S. allies and members of NATO?

    Should the U.S. go to war to protect them? Because allowing the Russians to have Ukraine will lead to that. Most confrontations are perception based. Not on a cold blooded analysis of interests.
    I presume you are confusing the Baltic states with the Balkan states. They are NATO allies and Ukraine is not, there is a reason for that. Furthermore, these countries are Stable democraties, not failed states like Ukraine. And the Idea that Russia Will in any way invade a NATO member state is fanciful.

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    When all the virtues of nuclear war are considered, I have to say it's much more preferable. How could anyone not agree?

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleming View Post
    I presume you are confusing the Baltic states with the Balkan states. They are NATO allies and Ukraine is not, there is a reason for that. Furthermore, these countries are Stable democraties, not failed states like Ukraine. And the Idea that Russia Will in any way invade a NATO member state is fanciful.
    Thanks for the correction.

    what about to protect ethnic Russian minorities there?

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Thanks for the correction.

    what about to protect ethnic Russian minorities there?
    The Baltic states and the Russian minorities living there are pretty insignificant to Russia compared with Ukraine. And again, the Baltic states are Stanley and firmly anchored in the EU and NATO.

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleming View Post
    The Baltic states and the Russian minorities living there are pretty insignificant to Russia compared with Ukraine. And again, the Baltic states are Stanley and firmly anchored in the EU and NATO.
    They are also undefendable geographically.

    do you think the U.S. should risk nuclear war for Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania?

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    They are also undefendable geographically.

    do you think the U.S. should risk nuclear war for Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania?
    They are perfectly defendable. And it would not take nuclear weapons to do that. Russia is no match for NATO and any attack on the Baltics would only lead to Russia losing Kaliningrad (which is totally indefensible).

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    Re: Which is better, a multi polar world or a nuclear war?

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