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Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black Pres? [W:222]

Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

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Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

SlevinKelevra said:
ahahah an interesting list you chose there.
seems to be missing a key demographic from the world's constituency.
i'll also disagree on the "for years" part, but I'd like an explanation on the prior point first.
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I also missed Native Americans, Latino/Asian mixes, Mormons, Muslims, cross-dressers, transgenders, and polygamists too. I don't have time to list every single possible demographic out there.:roll:

Feel free to "disagree" with me all you want. No interest in debating my opinion.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

tres borrachos said:
I also missed Native Americans, Latino/Asian mixes, Mormons, Muslims, cross-dressers, transgenders, and polygamists too. I don't have time to list every single possible demographic out there.:roll:

Feel free to "disagree" with me all you want. No interest in debating my opinion.
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so you think the US is actually ready to elect a Muslim president?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

ocean515 said:
Of course it isn't. In the grand scheme of things, the only people who think about the color of his skin are those who use it to defend against criticism of a woefully inept President.
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That's really not true. Much of the disrespect and even talk at diners have often been more than we should see today.
 
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Cephus said:
America is fine with a black president, but that's all Obama had going for him, it's the only reason he won and he turned out to be an unqualified individual that had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Likewise, America will do fine with a female president, but not because she's female, but because she's a good leader. We elect people based on how they look on TV, not on their actual qualifications.
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AMEN.

If we actually LOOKED at Hillary's resume, this is what it says:

Rich, lying, elitist 1%er with offshore bank accounts. She was FIRED from the Watergate investigation for lying. Her sec. of state run was a historically awful one, resulting in the foreign policy failures and her resignation.

But heck, she's a woman and the people don't give a crap about the rest!
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

tres borrachos said:
I'm sure someone who believes the country isn't/wasn't ready for a black President would be interested in your post. I'm not, because I never said the country wasn't ready for its first black President. In fact, I said just the opposite (and you should have caught that in my post that you quoted):

This country is and has been ready for a black, Indian, Hispanic, Asian, female, Jewish, gay, or atheist President for years.
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Oh, believe me. I read every word. That's why I answered the way I did.

If the people didn't want this Community Organizer with no executive experience at the state level (Governor) who happened to be Black running the country, not only would they not have elected him to office the first time, they wouldn't have done it TWICE!
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

What exactly does it mean to be "ready" for a black president? As if there's some default reason why a president shouldn't be black. Or Asian. Or a woman. Or an atheist. Or gay. Or whatever.
 
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Objective Voice said:
Oh, believe me. I read every word. That's why I answered the way I did.

If the people didn't want this Community Organizer with no executive experience at the state level (Governor) who happened to be Black running the country, not only would they not have elected him to office the first time, they wouldn't have done it TWICE!
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The question asked in the OP was about the country being ready for a black President. I answered that it was. No, you didn't read it, because from your whiny posts about my criticism of Obama, you missed it entirely. You defended Obama and the people who voted for him, then said this:

that in no way means America wasn't ready for its first Black President. Again, he won re-election. What better indicator of America's readiness on this issue is there than that?

So for some reason you used my post to answer what the OP asked. I don't care why people voted for Obama. I answered the question.
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's really not true. Much of the disrespect and even talk at diners have often been more than we should see today.
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There are millions of people who don't like President Obama because of his policies, attitude, actions, and vision. Stop trying to make it about his skin color. It should be shameful to keep trying to do so.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

tres borrachos said:
The question asked in the OP was about the country being ready for a black President. I answered that it was. No, you didn't read it, because from your whiny posts about my criticism of Obama, you missed it entirely. You defended Obama and the people who voted for him...
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The key part of your post which gets to the core of the poll is "the people who voted for him". So, again I say if America wasn't ready for its first Black President whether he had years of executive experience or not a single day's worth, the PEOPLE wouldn't have voted for him not once but TWICE!

Clearly, the vast majority of the population and the electorate liked the man AND what he was doing. So, again I say, "what better indicator of America's readiness on this issue is there than that?"
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

ocean515 said:
There are millions of people who don't like President Obama because of his policies, attitude, actions, and vision. Stop trying to make it about his skin color. It should be shameful to keep trying to do so.
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I'm sure there are, which doesn't make anything I said invalid. The guy at the bank who called him a N. . . . . wasn't talking about his politics. Nor were the guys at the local diner. Nor was the disrespect show by yelling you lie, in a hall where lies are common place, and where no such disrespect had been shown before. Add to it the birther silliness, the refusal to believe plain and clear facts, and it goes beyond politics for far too many. Not everyone. Not those who merely disagree on political issues. But those who go beyond that.
 
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Objective Voice said:
The key part of your post which gets to the core of the poll is "the people who voted for him". So, again I say if America wasn't ready for its first Black President whether he had years of executive experience or not a single day's worth, the PEOPLE wouldn't have voted for him not once but TWICE!

Clearly, the vast majority of the population and the electorate liked the man AND what he was doing. So, again I say, "what better indicator of America's readiness on this issue is there than that?"
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The key part of my post that got you all works up was that this country is ready for a black President, and has been for some time now, and Barack Obama's failures are his own because he didn't earn or deserve the job. His being black had nothing to do with his failures.

And of course, that's exactly what I posted the first time around. The fact that people were clueless enough to vote for an unqualified community organizer who is a failure as a President has nothing to do with the question asked in the OP. Nor does the fact that people "liked the man" have to do with it either.

If you agree that the country was ready for a black President, and agree with me, just post that, and stop trying to engage me in a debate about why people "like" him. This isn't the vote for Homecoming Queen and I have no interest in it.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

We like electing instant replays and pretending they are something new. Obama is just a great example of how stupid the people can really be when doing it.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
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Do you think Ben Carson is "ready"? How about Herman Caine?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

If anything, this worthless buffoon's election and re-election confirmed how many people would vote for someone because they're black and "it's historic" regardless of the merits, experience, or competency of the man in question.
 
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JayDubya said:
If anything, this worthless buffoon's election and re-election confirmed how many people would vote for someone because they're black and "it's historic" regardless of the merits, experience, or competency of the man in question.
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That's quite racist. He was all accounts the better candidate each time.
 
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Boo Radley said:
I'm sure there are, which doesn't make anything I said invalid. The guy at the bank who called him a N. . . . . wasn't talking about his politics. Nor were the guys at the local diner. Nor was the disrespect show by yelling you lie, in a hall where lies are common place, and where no such disrespect had been shown before. Add to it the birther silliness, the refusal to believe plain and clear facts, and it goes beyond politics for far too many. Not everyone. Not those who merely disagree on political issues. But those who go beyond that.
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Of course it makes it invalid. But that doesn't appear to be any consequence to bigots who try to use race to deflect legitimate criticism.
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's quite racist. He was all accounts the better candidate each time.
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60 million people disagree.

And are you denying that some people voted for him simply because he is half black, and that was an historic vote, as jdubya said?
 
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tres borrachos said:
The key part of my post that got you all works up was that this country is ready for a black President, and has been for some time now, and Barack Obama's failures are his own because he didn't earn or deserve the job. His being black had nothing to do with his failures.

And of course, that's exactly what I posted the first time around. The fact that people were clueless enough to vote for an unqualified community organizer who is a failure as a President has nothing to do with the question asked in the OP. Nor does the fact that people "liked the man" have to do with it either.
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Alright, so what was the OP question? To refresh...

MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
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The plain, straight-up answer is YES and NO!

Yes, America was ready for its first Black President. No, President Obama isn't proof that the nation wasn't ready for its first Black President.

The proof: He won both the 2008 presidential election and was re-elected in 2012.

The issue isn't about his policies, his lack of executive experience, his religious or cultural background nor his sexual orientation. His ethnicity...that's the question at hand.

Was America ready for its first Black President? Yes, plain and simple. All the other sub-plots are irrelevant - a point I've been trying to make from my very first post to this poll.
 
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Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
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Obama's skin color is irrelevant.What is relevant are his policies. If you are a conservative then you are mostly going to be opposed to his policies regardless of his skin color.If you are liberal then you are mostly going to support his policies regardless of his skin color. Those trying to claim its because of his race are merely rode on the back of the short bus smashed in the head with a brick retards trying to use race as a means of intimidating the opposition into supporting polices they do not agree with.
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's quite racist. He was all accounts the better candidate each time.
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By all accounts? No, not by all accounts.

I'm not surprised to see lazy racebaiting from one of his supporters, though.

It's the only card you have to play. And man, is it ever worn down from use.
 
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tres borrachos said:
60 million people disagree.

And are you denying that some people voted for him simply because he is half black, and that was an historic vote, as jdubya said?
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Then you're changing the parameters of the OP.

"Was America ready for its first Bi-Racial President who happened to look more Black than White?"

Come on, tres borrachos. The man won consecutive presidential elections. How obvious can America demonstrate its readiness on this issue than that?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Objective Voice said:
Alright, so what was the OP question? To refresh...



The plain, straight-up answer is YES and NO!

Yes, America was ready for its first Black President. No, President Obama isn't proof that the nation wasn't ready for its first Black President.

The proof: He won both the 2008 presidential election and was re-elected in 2012.

The issue isn't about his policies, his lack of executive experience, his religious or cultural background nor his sexual orientation. His ethnicity...that's the question at hand.

Was America ready for its first Black President? Yes, plain and simple. All the other sub-plots are irrelevant - a point I've been trying to make from my very first post to this poll.
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Fascinating. So why do you keep quoting me in your posts? I'm not the one who asked the question in the OP. Quote him.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Objective Voice said:
Then you're changing the parameters of the OP.

"Was America ready for its first Bi-Racial President who happened to look more Black than White?"

Come on, tres borrachos. The man won consecutive presidential elections. How obvious can America demonstrate its readiness on this issue than that?
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I can't change the parameters in someone else's poll. Why do you keep posting to me and not to him?

I quoted a poster and referred to a post made by another poster. It has nothing to do with the "parameters" of a third poster's poll.
 
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MildSteel said:
It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
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What does "ready" mean? Lol.


The idea that the country whites and mexicans pretending to be white will ever accept a black president or were ever going to was simply naive. They're at least 85 years behind the rest of the country culturally. There's no way they were or are going to accept a black liberal president.



-They live in rural/semi rural areas where US culture is 85 years at minimum behind the rest of US culture.

-They've generally wore a suit less than 5 times in their lives. Seeing a black guy in a suit would be shock enough for them. Seeing a black guy in a suit in the white house.. Oh my. Oh my. Talk about overload.

-They don't like urban and suburban people in general and think they're better than them. So to see an urban liberal black president in office is simply too much. They shutdown right then and there.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

ocean515 said:
Of course it makes it invalid. But that doesn't appear to be any consequence to bigots who try to use race to deflect legitimate criticism.
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No, it doesn't. And I think I explained why. Devolving to yes it is / no it isn't and name calling really wont advance rational discourse.
 
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