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Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black Pres? [W:222]

Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?


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Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?

I think you have it backwards.

This half-black man was not ready for the Presidency.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Really? You base that on what? One person's opinion on the internets?

Yes really..... based more like those on Bing, Google, MSN, and all those other links all talking about the same thing and reporting the same thing they did back in 2008. All coming up with the same interpretation and meaning.

Despite all the different wording and terminology.....and despite your self alleged opinion.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Race is irrelevant - either they have good policies and work for the betterment of ALL people in the country or they do not. Green, Black, White, Blue... color matters not at all.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
I think it really is as simple as this: If we weren't ready for a black President than we would have never elected one... TWICE!
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?

What possible reason could you have for even asking this question? Do you imagine that anything he has or hasn't done was because he's half black?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Not in the least. If anything I'd suggest his election is a pretty clear indication they are "ready", since they elected one.

I would have to say it was his re-election that showed that. Anybody can make a mistake, even a country in an election, but he was re-elected showing the majority of the public approved of him and what he was doing.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Yes really..... based more like those on Bing, Google, MSN, and all those other links all talking about the same thing and reporting the same thing they did back in 2008. All coming up with the same interpretation and meaning.

Despite all the different wording and terminology.....and despite your self alleged opinion.

So if a whole lot of people think something, it must be true then?

Seriously, you are not doing well here. I would advise you actually watch the video so you know what she said(hint: she mentions demographic groups she has support in, that is all she does), then stop and think if a whole lot of people are saying she said something she did not, does that change her actual words.(hint: it doesn't). See, here I am, discussing what she actually said, and the only way you have found to argue otherwise is to show that other people are saying she said something else. Except we have an exact record of what she did say, and what she said it in reference to. No amount of opinion pieces, blogs, and people on social media is going to change her actual words, no matter how much you might like to with they could.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

So if a whole lot of people think something, it must be true then?

Seriously, you are not doing well here. I would advise you actually watch the video so you know what she said(hint: she mentions demographic groups she has support in, that is all she does), then stop and think if a whole lot of people are saying she said something she did not, does that change her actual words.(hint: it doesn't). See, here I am, discussing what she actually said, and the only way you have found to argue otherwise is to show that other people are saying she said something else. Except we have an exact record of what she did say, and what she said it in reference to. No amount of opinion pieces, blogs, and people on social media is going to change her actual words, no matter how much you might like to with they could.

Yeah it does.....It pointed out exactly what she said. Using the term White.....Twice. With the meaning that all others got but you didn't, and then why they reported it as to what.....her words were all about.

All back in 2008. That's the reality.....whether you like it or not.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

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If Obama could walk on water, the political right would say "he can't swim." Why? I look at this this way, Obama is also called "Bush II" or sometimes "Bush Lite." He's more conservative than Bush and had implicitly adopted many Bush policies. Still, the political right hates him. I can only come to one conclusion as to why; Race.


Spot on in many respects.
Despite what he may have campaigned on, His real "reign" (teehee) is as just another massively pro corporate authoritarian, but one who has "liberal" social views. From his adoption of the Heritage fix to health care, to his extension of tax cuts, ..... he could probably say that breathing in air is good for you and the GOP would in reflex commit suicide.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

The Obama Presidency is proof that the country wasn't ready for an underqualified community organizer who was elected because of a rock star image instead of any legitimate leadership, economic, or foreign policy expertise.

This country is and has been ready for a black, Indian, Hispanic, Asian, female, Jewish, gay, or atheist President for years. Obama isn't a failure because of his skin color, and his skin color isn't what caused him to fail.


ahahah an interesting list you chose there.
seems to be missing a key demographic from the world's constituency.
i'll also disagree on the "for years" part, but I'd like an explanation on the prior point first.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Yeah it does.....It pointed out exactly what she said. Using the term White.....Twice. With the meaning that all others got but you didn't, and then why they reported it as to what.....her words were all about.

All back in 2008. That's the reality.....whether you like it or not.

Wait, so using the term white is capitalizing on Obama's race now? Do you have anything even more stupid to add?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Sigh with this lie again...

The "heritage fix" was on portion of a far broader healthcare proposal, put forward at a time where Republicans had historically been in a continual position of a minority party, that couldn't even sustain significant Republican support at the time it was initially pushed on a federal level 20 years ago. Attempting to paint the ACA as some kind of compromise bill or GOP idea because a single instance surrounding it was promoted by the GOP 20 years ago, and promptly abandoned, would be like placing one random item pushed by JFK or some other democrat from years ago (that they no longer support as a party) into a bill filled with a number of things democrats would hate and trying to declare that said bill is a compromise bill written by Democrats.

God damn I wish this idiotic talking point would just die. It's getting really old having to point out the lunacy of it again and again
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Sigh with this lie again...

The "heritage fix" was on portion of a far broader healthcare proposal, put forward at a time where Republicans had historically been in a continual position of a minority party, that couldn't even sustain significant Republican support at the time it was initially pushed on a federal level 20 years ago. Attempting to paint the ACA as some kind of compromise bill or GOP idea because a single instance surrounding it was promoted by the GOP 20 years ago, and promptly abandoned, would be like placing one random item pushed by JFK or some other democrat from years ago (that they no longer support as a party) into a bill filled with a number of things democrats would hate and trying to declare that said bill is a compromise bill written by Democrats.

God damn I wish this idiotic talking point would just die. It's getting really old having to point out the lunacy of it again and again



What is the key part of the ACA that the GOP seems to most dislike? The individual mandate?

Who first promoted the individual mandate?

Which party says people should partake in "personal responsibility"?
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Wait, so using the term white is capitalizing on Obama's race now? Do you have anything even more stupid to add?

She was using it back then and all got her meaning as it was reported.....you still couldn't figure it out. Yet, even have the nerve to use the word Stupid. :doh
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

I do not agree with that. Obama's presidency has been filled with hyper partisanship, social concerns, and various disappointments. But, that has less to do with him being black and more to do with him being a liberal Chicago style politician. With all that implies.

Our issues with awakening racism and social cohesion concerns is again about his character, and the character of those around him. It does not mean that everyone that is black thinks the way Obama does, but it does mean that having the wrong first black President has had some concerns that others might have avoided.

It is then similar to saying we would be ready for a female President. The right female President, because in the end it all comes down to what defines the person and not some list of physical attributes.



The thread is racist.

Your opinions are more whining about incompetence excuse because of skin color..


"oh, poor, poor me, they're picking on me."

Take a look at what progressive pukes said about Reagan and the obstructions there.

No, the Obama presidency has nothing to do with skin color, I know Herman Cain would do a better job, probably Denzel too.

The Obama presidency is proof that one, you cannot ever trust progressives and two, experience is required to be the leader of the free world, community organizers who lie need not apply.

Based on the whining, Obama is the weakest, lamest little gopher of a president who has ever crawled. "They won't let me...." should have been his motto as there sure as **** is no change...and if anyone can find hope in this mess they are obviously exempted from Obamacare

Wah, wah, wah,. wah...

The most baby-teared presidency ever...no wonder other world leaders don't take him seriously....
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

No, the Obama presidency has nothing to do with skin color, I know Herman Cain would do a better job, probably Denzel too.
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OOOH boy, I love it. After whining about a *declining* large deficit for 5 years, the GOP should have run and the country should have elected a guy whose tax plan would create a 2 to 2.5T$ shortfall at current spending levels.

Well, at least then you could say "See, we don't complain about ALL black presidents and their deficits". Nice idea.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

She was using it back then and all got her meaning as it was reported.....you still couldn't figure it out. Yet, even have the nerve to use the word Stupid. :doh

What she meant was quite specific, she could win because she had alarge base of support among certain demographic groups. She proved to be wrong, but that is what she said.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

What she meant was quite specific, she could win because she had alarge base of support among certain demographic groups. She proved to be wrong, but that is what she said.

It was reported what it all meant back then. Which were all those who.....you were whining about earlier. That's where its at. Despite whatever you think your understanding is.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

OOOH boy, I love it. After whining about a *declining* large deficit for 5 years, the GOP should have run and the country should have elected a guy whose tax plan would create a 2 to 2.5T$ shortfall at current spending levels.

Well, at least then you could say "See, we don't complain about ALL black presidents and their deficits". Nice idea.


that should have included a "per year". just in case it wasn't clear.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

I totally disagree with the premise of the poll. If America wasn't ready for its first Black President, the people wouldn't have elected him...TWICE!
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Your opinions are more whining about incompetence excuse because of skin color..

That is not what I said it all. Please re-read the post.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

The Obama Presidency is proof that the country wasn't ready for an underqualified community organizer who was elected because of a rock star image instead of any legitimate leadership, economic, or foreign policy expertise.

This country is and has been ready for a black, Indian, Hispanic, Asian, female, Jewish, gay, or atheist President for years. Obama isn't a failure because of his skin color, and his skin color isn't what caused him to fail.
Hence, the reason he was elected TWICE! :doh

Clearly, the majority of Americans liked what he was doing. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won re-election. Oh, you could argue that many people voted only in their best interest (i.e., they didn't want their unemployment benefits taken away, they didn't want to lose the possibility of obtaining health care for the first time, they wanted to retain someone in the WH who would fight for them, etc., etc.) but that in no way means America wasn't ready for its first Black President. Again, he won re-election. What better indicator of America's readiness on this issue is there than that?
 
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Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

America is fine with a black president, but that's all Obama had going for him, it's the only reason he won and he turned out to be an unqualified individual that had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Likewise, America will do fine with a female president, but not because she's female, but because she's a good leader. We elect people based on how they look on TV, not on their actual qualifications.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

Hence, the reason he was elected TWICE! :doh

Clearly, the majority of Americans liked what he was doing. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won re-election. Oh, you could argue that many people voted only in their best interest (i.e., they didn't want their unemployment benefits taken away, they didn't want to lose the possibility of obtaining health care for the first time, they wanted to retain someone in the WH who would fight for them, etc., etc.) but that in no way means America wasn't ready for its first Black President. Again, he won re-election. What better indicator of America's readiness on this issue is there than that?

I'm sure someone who believes the country isn't/wasn't ready for a black President would be interested in your post. I'm not, because I never said the country wasn't ready for its first black President. In fact, I said just the opposite (and you should have caught that in my post that you quoted):

This country is and has been ready for a black, Indian, Hispanic, Asian, female, Jewish, gay, or atheist President for years.
 
Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

I'm sure someone who believes the country isn't/wasn't ready for a black President would be interested in your post. I'm not, because I never said the country wasn't ready for its first black President. In fact, I said just the opposite (and you should have caught that in my post that you quoted):

This country is and has been ready for a black, Indian, Hispanic, Asian, female, Jewish, gay, or atheist President for years.


why did you limit your list to this group? you seem to be missing a major constituency of the global population.
 
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