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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black Pres? [W:222

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He's acted fairly similarly to George Bush, so if we aren't ready for Obama, we probably aren't ready for any of the Republocrat elite.
    It is similar. However he has shown a bit more reluctance to engage the U.S. militarily. As such, I give him a small bit of credit for bearing the resulting accusations of weakness well.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that's just excuse making.
    Not at all. When it comes to excuse making it would seem 9 out of 10 people see it is coming from people who share a similar need to try and deflect criticism of the President. With that level of consensus, what is there to debate?

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not at all. When it comes to excuse making it would seem 9 out of 10 people see it is coming from people who share a similar need to try and deflect criticism of the President.
    IF you are referring to me, I feel no need to deflect correct criticism of the President or anyone else for that matter. I think your response is designed to deflect legitimate criticism that SOME of Obama's problems as President are the result of him being black, half black if you prefer.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    If Obama could walk on water, the political right would say "he can't swim." Why? I look at this this way, Obama is also called "Bush II" or sometimes "Bush Lite." He's more conservative than Bush and had implicitly adopted many Bush policies. Still, the political right hates him. I can only come to one conclusion as to why; Race.
    To refer to Obama as "conservative" in any way, one would have to be to the left of Stalin. Idiotic.

    Get over it, disdain for Obama has nothing to do with race.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    IF you are referring to me, I feel no need to deflect correct criticism of the President or anyone else for that matter. I think your response is designed to deflect legitimate criticism that SOME of Obama's problems as President are the result of him being black, half black if you prefer.
    Examples?

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Get over it, disdain for Obama has nothing to do with race.
    That is certainly true for some, however there are indeed people for whom Obama's race is problematic.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Examples?
    Examples of what?

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    IF you are referring to me, I feel no need to deflect correct criticism of the President or anyone else for that matter. I think your response is designed to deflect legitimate criticism that SOME of Obama's problems as President are the result of him being black, half black if you prefer.
    My, don't we feel self important. If I was specifically referring to you in the post I made, you would have been the person I was posting to. However, if you're referring to people who think like you in general, yes, I was referring to you.

    Except for an inconsequential percentage of people, skin color has nothing to do with the way the President is viewed, and his policies and agenda is criticized.

    "Because he is black" is just a tool the left has been trying and failing to use to silence legitimate critique and concern. This strategy is pathetic, and has done more to expose the real racism that exists among those pushing this narrative. Your own posts confirm your membership in this ridiculous group.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    My, don't we feel self important.
    First of all I said IF. Next of all, do you feel so important that you think I would feel important if you were referring to me?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    If I was specifically referring to you in the post I made, you would have been the person I was posting to.
    I wasn't sure who you were referring to that's why I said IF.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    However, if you're referring to people who think like you in general, yes, I was referring to you.
    I didn't refer to anyone in general. I was speaking to you specifically. There was nothing general about it. That said, I take it to mean that you are referring to me and others who might share my view that some of Obama's problems as President stem from his race.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Except for an inconsequential percentage of people, skin color has nothing to do with the way the President is viewed, and his policies and agenda is criticized.
    An "inconsequential percentage?" Is that based on data or merely a rhetorical tool to express your view that the racist component of Obama's opposition has had no effect on his presidency?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    "Because he is black" is just a tool the left has been trying and failing to use to silence legitimate critique and concern. This strategy is pathetic, and has done more to expose the real racism that exists among those pushing this narrative. Your own posts confirm your membership in this ridiculous group.
    Well your post here is plain wrong. I have been a very vocal critique of Obama in many instances. In fact, right here in this forum, I have acknowledged what I felt was legitimate criticism of Obama from some on the right. Furthermore, for your information, in fact, I was so fed up with him that although I never thought it possible, I considered voting Republican last time. It's just that there candidates were so sorry, I could not bring myself to do it.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    First of all I said IF. Next of all, do you feel so important that you think I would feel important if you were referring to me?



    I wasn't sure who you were referring to that's why I said IF.



    I didn't refer to anyone in general. I was speaking to you specifically. There was nothing general about it. That said, I take it to mean that you are referring to me and others who might share my view that some of Obama's problems as President stem from his race.



    An "inconsequential percentage?" Is that based on data or merely a rhetorical tool to express your view that the racist component of Obama's opposition has had no effect on his presidency?



    Well your post here is plain wrong. I have been a very vocal critique of Obama in many instances. In fact, right here in this forum, I have acknowledged what I felt was legitimate criticism of Obama from some on the right. Furthermore, for your information, in fact, I was so fed up with him that although I never thought it possible, I considered voting Republican last time. It's just that there candidates were so sorry, I could not bring myself to do it.
    The inconsequential percentage is based on data, and is reflected by the response to your poll. The "racist component" as you put it has had no effect on his Presidency despite the never ending effort to claim otherwise.

    Prove it has had an effect. What has the President been unable to do because of his skin color? This skin color narrative has been substantial and pervasive since he announced his run for President, and ever since he has taken office.

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