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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're right! We got Obama!
    As said, you could have done worst, Romney for example, or Sarah Palin.

    And Obama might be a bit of a let down, but most people would say that Bush was worse on many subjects.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    As said, you could have done worst, Romney for example, or Sarah Palin.

    And Obama might be a bit of a let down, but most people would say that Bush was worse on many subjects.
    And with this I of course mean the younger Bush and not the elder Bush, I reasonably like that president Bush.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think reality has to be stretched so far to draw the conclusions you have, it's obvious what your agenda is.

    I think it's despicable. But as I've written, it's just more of the same from people desperate to avoid the truth.

    I have no agenda. Just discussing it with you. Do you use that word to marginalize a point? Easier than debating it I suppose.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I doubt that it helped him. As I said, the number is insignificant. There were likely as many who didn't vote for him due to his race as didn't.
    Maybe. Do you think the rookie senator would have won the election if he were white? Tough question

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no agenda. Just discussing it with you. Do you use that word to marginalize a point? Easier than debating it I suppose.
    Nothing to debate. It would appear your agenda is not as easily recognized by you as it is to those witnessing you proving it.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I like this post because it fits right into the smoke and mirrors many folks try to use to camouflage their racial bias of America's 42nd President.

    You say America was ready for its first Black president, and state firmly (above) that a Black man could win the presidency on merit. Yet, when you denounce his "merits" (i.e., his community activism, his state and Federal Senatorial credentials) as if they mean far less than having "executive experience" from a govenorship and then add on other such denouncements as "he won because he was likable" or "people bought into his rhetoric" as the sole reasons why he was elected (TWICE), you effectively nullify your claim that merit matters. I bring you back to your previous post:



    And yet there are clear indications to illustrate that he has succeeded. Maybe not to the degree that some would like, but there have been successes all the same. It's sad that some people just don't care to take notice.

    I'm not picking on you per sa. I'm merely using your above posts to illustrate how wrong so many of you are about "Black Presidential readiness" and leadership/qualification standards because if executive experience is the pathway to the presidency for a Black man in this country then we may never see another Black man in the WH for decades to come. Why? Because there have only been 5 Black governors in the history of this country and only 3 were ever elected to office. Moreover, throughout American history since the Civil War era, there have only been EIGHT African-Americans to every run for the presidency or even win presidential nomination for their party (mostly on the Democrat ticket):

    - Frederick Douglas
    - George Edwin Taylor
    - Shirley Chisholm
    - Jesse Jackson
    - Al Sharpton
    - Alan Keyes
    - Hermin Cain
    - Carol Moseley-Braun

    That's it! So, for African-Americans when we see someone who's not as dubious or duplicitous as Jesse or Sharpton and instead find someone who lived a "grass-roots lifestyle" similar to many of us, someone who grew up poor, can related not only to the problems many African-Americans have experienced but is very relate-able to people of all races and shows that he has a plan that if enacted could help resolve many of the nation's problems, YES!, absolutely such an individual gets my vote. And for the record, I never voted for Jesse, Sharpton, Keyes nor Cain - the only Black presidential candidates available to me during my lifetime to date. But Obama...damned right I voted for him - TWICE! Because he was Black AND qualified and he had a plan to move this country forward that IMO was better than the rest. Not perfect, just better.
    What a freaking long winded and ridiculous post to address to me.

    If you want to understand what I said, ask me. Let me try this again.

    The question in the poll again:

    Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    My answer was that the Obama Presidency was proof that someone who is unqualified should not be elected. And the second part of my answer was that this country is and has been ready for a black President for some time. Obama is a poor President based on his performance, and not his skin color. In other words, Obama's performance has nothing to do with the country being ready for a black President or not.

    Why you wasted my time mentioning everyone from Frederick Douglas to Herman Cain, I have no idea.

    If you want to have a debate about what a great President Obama is, then start a thread about it. If you want to discuss how many black governors this country has had and how you never voted for Jesse Jackson, etc., then do it, or please quote someone else in the future. Why on Earth do you think I care about who you voted for?
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What a freaking long winded and ridiculous post to address to me.

    If you want to understand what I said, ask me. Let me try this again.

    The question in the poll again:

    Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    My answer was that the Obama Presidency was proof that someone who is unqualified should not be elected. And the second part of my answer was that this country is and has been ready for a black President for some time. Obama is a poor President based on his performance, and not his skin color. In other words, Obama's performance has nothing to do with the country being ready for a black President or not.

    Why you wasted my time mentioning everyone from Frederick Douglas to Herman Cain, I have no idea.

    If you want to have a debate about what a great President Obama is, then start a thread about it. If you want to discuss how many black governors this country has had and how you never voted for Jesse Jackson, etc., then do it, or please quote someone else in the future. Why on Earth do you think I care about who you voted for?
    I don't!

    But you did such a great job of talking about electing someone based on their merits and executive experience I felt compelled to demonstrate to you that one doesn't necessarily equate to the other especially where Black men elected to high office particularly at the state-level is concerned. And with that, carry on.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't!

    But you did such a great job of talking about electing someone based on their merits and executive experience I felt compelled to demonstrate to you that one doesn't necessarily equate to the other especially where Black men elected to high office particularly at the state-level is concerned. And with that, carry on.
    Please stop posting to me. I can't stand reading your sniveling posts. And it isn't my fault that you forget the subject of the threads you're posting in.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Please stop posting to me. I can't stand reading your sniveling posts. And it isn't my fault that you forget the subject of the threads you're posting in.
    And yet you did it anyway. Sorry if I touched a nerve.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    As said, you could have done worst, Romney for example, or Sarah Palin.

    And Obama might be a bit of a let down, but most people would say that Bush was worse on many subjects.
    Palin or Romney would have been head and shoulders above Obama, because Obama wasn't just a let down, he was a total disaster.
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