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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm sure there are, which doesn't make anything I said invalid. The guy at the bank who called him a N. . . . . wasn't talking about his politics. Nor were the guys at the local diner. Nor was the disrespect show by yelling you lie, in a hall where lies are common place, and where no such disrespect had been shown before. Add to it the birther silliness, the refusal to believe plain and clear facts, and it goes beyond politics for far too many. Not everyone. Not those who merely disagree on political issues. But those who go beyond that.
    Of course it makes it invalid. But that doesn't appear to be any consequence to bigots who try to use race to deflect legitimate criticism.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's quite racist. He was all accounts the better candidate each time.
    60 million people disagree.

    And are you denying that some people voted for him simply because he is half black, and that was an historic vote, as jdubya said?
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The key part of my post that got you all works up was that this country is ready for a black President, and has been for some time now, and Barack Obama's failures are his own because he didn't earn or deserve the job. His being black had nothing to do with his failures.

    And of course, that's exactly what I posted the first time around. The fact that people were clueless enough to vote for an unqualified community organizer who is a failure as a President has nothing to do with the question asked in the OP. Nor does the fact that people "liked the man" have to do with it either.
    Alright, so what was the OP question? To refresh...

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
    The plain, straight-up answer is YES and NO!

    Yes, America was ready for its first Black President. No, President Obama isn't proof that the nation wasn't ready for its first Black President.

    The proof: He won both the 2008 presidential election and was re-elected in 2012.

    The issue isn't about his policies, his lack of executive experience, his religious or cultural background nor his sexual orientation. His ethnicity...that's the question at hand.

    Was America ready for its first Black President? Yes, plain and simple. All the other sub-plots are irrelevant - a point I've been trying to make from my very first post to this poll.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?
    Obama's skin color is irrelevant.What is relevant are his policies. If you are a conservative then you are mostly going to be opposed to his policies regardless of his skin color.If you are liberal then you are mostly going to support his policies regardless of his skin color. Those trying to claim its because of his race are merely rode on the back of the short bus smashed in the head with a brick retards trying to use race as a means of intimidating the opposition into supporting polices they do not agree with.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's quite racist. He was all accounts the better candidate each time.
    By all accounts? No, not by all accounts.

    I'm not surprised to see lazy racebaiting from one of his supporters, though.

    It's the only card you have to play. And man, is it ever worn down from use.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    60 million people disagree.

    And are you denying that some people voted for him simply because he is half black, and that was an historic vote, as jdubya said?
    Then you're changing the parameters of the OP.

    "Was America ready for its first Bi-Racial President who happened to look more Black than White?"

    Come on, tres borrachos. The man won consecutive presidential elections. How obvious can America demonstrate its readiness on this issue than that?
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Alright, so what was the OP question? To refresh...



    The plain, straight-up answer is YES and NO!

    Yes, America was ready for its first Black President. No, President Obama isn't proof that the nation wasn't ready for its first Black President.

    The proof: He won both the 2008 presidential election and was re-elected in 2012.

    The issue isn't about his policies, his lack of executive experience, his religious or cultural background nor his sexual orientation. His ethnicity...that's the question at hand.

    Was America ready for its first Black President? Yes, plain and simple. All the other sub-plots are irrelevant - a point I've been trying to make from my very first post to this poll.
    Fascinating. So why do you keep quoting me in your posts? I'm not the one who asked the question in the OP. Quote him.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then you're changing the parameters of the OP.

    "Was America ready for its first Bi-Racial President who happened to look more Black than White?"

    Come on, tres borrachos. The man won consecutive presidential elections. How obvious can America demonstrate its readiness on this issue than that?
    I can't change the parameters in someone else's poll. Why do you keep posting to me and not to him?

    I quoted a poster and referred to a post made by another poster. It has nothing to do with the "parameters" of a third poster's poll.
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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It has been said repeatedly by some over the years that the United States is not ready for a black President. Is the Obama Presidency proof of this?

    What does "ready" mean? Lol.


    The idea that the country whites and mexicans pretending to be white will ever accept a black president or were ever going to was simply naive. They're at least 85 years behind the rest of the country culturally. There's no way they were or are going to accept a black liberal president.



    -They live in rural/semi rural areas where US culture is 85 years at minimum behind the rest of US culture.

    -They've generally wore a suit less than 5 times in their lives. Seeing a black guy in a suit would be shock enough for them. Seeing a black guy in a suit in the white house.. Oh my. Oh my. Talk about overload.

    -They don't like urban and suburban people in general and think they're better than them. So to see an urban liberal black president in office is simply too much. They shutdown right then and there.

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    Re: Is the Obama Presidency proof that the U.S. is not ready for a black President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course it makes it invalid. But that doesn't appear to be any consequence to bigots who try to use race to deflect legitimate criticism.
    No, it doesn't. And I think I explained why. Devolving to yes it is / no it isn't and name calling really wont advance rational discourse.

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