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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Nice try at deflection. Moot point. Obama is president now, and has legislated via EO for the entirety of his administration. Do you approve of that?
    I just think the argument loses credibility when every president since George Washington except one has issued executive orders and the record holder in our lifetime was President Reagan.

    To be completely honest, I am a republican. I voted for Mike Huckabee in the 2008 primary in support for family values and the fair tax. I voted for McCain in the general election in support for social issues, in particular the life issue.

    What I do not do is vote for republicans, support republicans and oppose democrats just because I'm a republican, that's my party and my supposed job is to support the team and oppose the opposition.

    I noticed since 2008 many republicans cane unhinged and seem to do exactly what I do not do and in fact object to; oppose the president because he's leads the opposition. This seems apparent based on him being held to a double standard. I find little to no credibility with arguments that claim the current president is gosh-darn awful because he did "X" but saud absolutely nothing then nor now when one of their own did "X" first and/or to a greater extent. In fact, since I'm being comeplely honest, due to the high level of osupposed outrage over the persistent doing various "X" that they had no problem then nor now when our side did the same things sometimes including dishonesty, I highly suspect these are only masks and their real problem is something else the rules do political correctness prevent them from openly acknowledging.

    Do I disapprove of presudential executive orders? I'd never considered the question until Obama opponents brought it up. I don't think they're the best way to get laws enacted in a perfect world. As long as there's judicial review and the ability for congress to repeal them, I don't think its the end of the world. My favorite executive order is the emancipation proclamation. Not perfect but a step in the right direction.
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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Nice try at deflection. Moot point. Obama is president now, and has legislated via EO for the entirety of his administration. Do you approve of that?

    So can you give examples of prior presidents and EO's that you found acceptable?


    Also, the past comparison is perfectly germane if the topic (as was raised) that Obama is terrible with use of EO --- when history indicates the alternative would be as bad or worse.

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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Q:Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?
    A: A bowl of wax fruit would be a better president than Obama.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    +1 on inanimate objects being an upgrade.

    Obama is on my ignore list.

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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Q:Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?
    A: A bowl of wax fruit would be a better president than Obama.
    Would Palin be better than a bowl of wax fruit?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This is mostly a question for conservatives, but all are welcome to participate.
    Palin is not the ideal candidate. She was unfairly treated when she ran for vice president and her brand suffered as a result.

    Having said that, it's difficult to imagine a worse president than Obama. His muddled pro Muslim policy is making the world a more dangerous place. His progressive economic policies have slowed our economic recovery, leaving us with more unemployed, and record numbers of people in poverty on food stamps. Our economic recovery is due to energy development on public land which he opposes but took credit for.

    With Palin, who was an effective and popular governor until the attack dogs went after her, I thing you would at least get someone who is firm in support of our allies, strong in opposing our enemies and someone who. as the governor of a state supported by energy development, would put a comprehensive policy to rationally deal with our energy production and needs.

    Having said that, there are many more in the Republican field who are more electable. Personally though, most are unacceptable to me personally.
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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Palin is not the ideal candidate. She was unfairly treated when she ran for vice president and her brand suffered as a result.
    In what respect, sawdust?

    Having said that, it's difficult to imagine a worse president than Obama. His muddled pro Muslim territory is making the world a more dangerous place.
    what?

    His progressive economic policies have slowed our economic recovery, leaving us with more unemployed,
    this is patently false.

    and record numbers of people in poverty on food stamps.
    if you look at numbers devoid of context, for example.

    Our economic recovery is due to energy development on public land which he opposes but took credit for.
    citations needed

    With Palin, who was an effective and popular governor until the attack dogs went after her, I thing you would at least get someone who is firm in support of our allies, strong in opposing our enemies and someone who. as the governor of a state supported by energy development, would put a comprehensive policy to rationally deal with our energy production and needs.
    .
    she wouldn't even know who our allies are. "drill baby drill" isn't rational. And one of her most effective deeds was to quit.

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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Having been largely actively destructive, the question isn't whether Palin would be "better" (indicating net positive) than Obama, but rather would she be "better" (indicating relative improvement) than Obama.

    In which case the answer is most assuredly yes. We would not have an ACA with a President Palin. We would have had smaller deficits with a President Palin. We would not have had an administrative attack on the energy sector with a President Palin. We would not have had an effective-amnesty immigration policy with a President APWe would have a foreign policy with a President Palin.

    Would she have been net positive? That's I think up for reasonable debate. But comparing her to the current administration is an incredibly low bar to clear. It's like asking if she would be able to run a marathon faster while pushing Trig in a stroller than I could while sitting on my couch eating ice cream.

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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm sure a Quayle administration would have been interesting also.
    As long as GOPs are now throwing Palin under the bus, I wonder why Bush-41's VP has escaped this ridicule.
    Oh yeah, he disappeared from the Public .
    actually Quayle was pretty competent as a senator and not bad VP. He actually had more credentials in 88 than Obama had in 08



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    re: Would Sarah Palin be a better president than Obama?[W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    In what respect, sawdust?

    what?


    this is patently false.



    if you look at numbers devoid of context, for example.

    citations needed



    she wouldn't even know who our allies are. "drill baby drill" isn't rational. And one of her most effective deeds was to quit.
    What you ask. Do you believe that Pailin said she can see Russia from her house or that she doesn't read any news? The first quote was from SNL and used to portray her as stupid, which was a common theme in the media.

    Patently false, nonsense. He supported the overthrow of Gaddafi in Lybia, who at the time while not a friend of the US, was not anti US and as a result, now Lybia is in the control of radical Islamists. Mubarak was pro western and Obama supported his overthrow in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood who for all intents supports terrorist organizations. Everyone recognizes his failed pull out of Iraq which facilitated the growth of ISIS. I can't even describe the lunacy of his policy toward Syria, which strengthen Russian involvement in the Middle East and emboldened Iran. Obama is a mess in the middle east.

    If you want research on food stamps, the labor participation rate and numbers of unemployed, look them up yourself, assuming you can operate google.

    Any rational and honest person knows that to be elected governor of a state you can't be stupid. Your comment about not knowing who are allies are is just a continuation of the disparagement that Palin has suffered in the media by people who claim there is a war on women, as they issue their own slurs against women. In addition, the recent economic rebound, despite declining orders for durable goods and big ticket items is the result of people having more disposable income due to the decrease in gas prices. The stock market bubble is the result of six years of pumping by the Fed. When that stops and interest rates rise, watch what happens to the market. We've had a recovery from near depression which is the longest in American history because Obama cares more about redistribution than he does about economic growth. I've never hoped for failure of his economic policies, but as I looked at them, I've never seen one which I thought was intelligent.

    The best energy policy is an all of the above policy. Alternative energy is worth pursuing however there's not much of it ready for market. A war on coal, instead of promoting clean coal technologies is just ignorant seeing we have more coal than any other nation. The investment this nation has made in bankrupt alternative energy companies should tell you something.
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