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Jill Stein

Would You Consider A Vote For Jill Stein?

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Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?
 
Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?

I'm a Green, so this post sucked me in like a black hole. I would definitely vote for Jill Stein. I will do
whatever is necessary to build a viable third party to make people realize that if they keep voting for a
two-headed coin of Dems/Pepubs, they will keep getting the same thing. What more needs to be said?
 
Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?

absolutely not

she's a tax hiking gun banner
 
Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?

Who is Jill Stein?
 
All I remember Jill Stein for was a long list of entitlements she wants to put in place.
 
All I remember Jill Stein for was a long list of entitlements she wants to put in place.

she wants a "Green" New Deal. she's pretty much the stereotype of a liberal Jewish Ivy league grad when it comes to policies
 
I'd strongly consider her in the likely absence of a Bernie Sanders or Jim Webb nomination, but Gary Johnson would probably be my first choice third party wise. For several reasons:

1. He's the more politically viable of the third party candidates.

2. Where Stein is superior in alot of ways economically, she is weak on gun rights and for expanding bureaucracies like the FDA/EPA/DoE/etc. Also, though I consider myself a strong environmentalist, I do feel her policies take that to the extreme in alot of ways. Furthermore, I'm for more localized education, school choice, homeschool rights, so on. Which Stein does not bring to the table.

3. Gary Johnson has more experience, having already been a Governor. And a rather popular one at that.

But if the LP chooses to put up some loony toon instead of Gary Johnson (who I consider pretty moderate compared to the rest of the party) and the Democrats go full Hillary, she'd be my next choice for sure.
 
Her positions are not shared by most Americans, that I'll tell ya confidently.
But then, the Green party's "eco-socialism" shouldn't be taken seriously, should it?
 
she was almost a great candidate last time.

unless she loses her insane positions against nuclear energy and/or puts singlepayer in boldprint as her #1 mustdo accomplishment however, she will continue to not earn my vote.
 
If this is the lady I think it is, I really liked many of he positions, except for the green parts.
 
she wants a "Green" New Deal. she's pretty much the stereotype of a liberal Jewish Ivy league grad when it comes to policies

In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.
 
In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.

i'll take massive oversimplifications for $1000 , alex.
 
In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.

Democrats are socialist-lite, Green is getting closer to all out socialism
 
i'll take massive oversimplifications for $1000 , alex.

where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude


she's a gun banner-so is Obama
She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama


etc
 
Where Stein is superior in alot of ways economically, she is weak on gun rights and for expanding bureaucracies like the FDA/EPA/DoE/etc. Also, though I consider myself a strong environmentalist, I do feel her policies take that to the extreme in alot of ways. Furthermore, I'm for more localized education, school choice, homeschool rights, so on. Which Stein does not bring to the table.

More generally, Stein's not an individualist. Libertarians are individualists. She has nothing in common with them except for superficial declarations on privacy rights and some civil issues. Concretely, her ideology is rather antithetical to libertarianism. Environmentalists believe that group rights and environmental rights should trump individual rights.

Stein: soak the rich, higher taxes, larger federal government, more gun control, pro-global warming industry, anti-private enterprise, etc.

In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.

Yep.
 
where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude


she's a gun banner-so is Obama
She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama


etc


citations needed on claim #1


as to her/Green vs Democrats(or specifically Obama)

end corporate personhood
holds Israel partly responsible for current conditions
end nation building excursions
end NAFTA/ other assymetrical free trade that causes illegal immigration and outsourcing
full public financing of elections
end patriot act


etc
 
More generally, Stein's not an individualist. Libertarians are individualists. She has nothing in common with them except for superficial declarations on privacy rights and some civil issues. Concretely, her ideology is rather antithetical to libertarianism. Environmentalists believe that group rights and environmental rights should trump individual rights.

Stein: soak the rich, higher taxes, larger federal government, more gun control, pro-global warming industry, anti-private enterprise, etc.



Yep.

the biggest problem with environmentalists these days is you don't know what is their real position

is government control of private property a means to the end (environmentalism) or is environmentalism merely a means to the end of government control of private property

just about every movement that has as its main avenue-government control of private properly-ends up being adopted or even taken over by those whose main goal is government control

gun banners
animal rights extremists
environmentalists
"economic justice"
universal heath care advocates
 
citations needed on claim #1


as to her/Green vs Democrats(or specifically Obama)

end corporate personhood
holds Israel partly responsible for current conditions
end nation building excursions
end NAFTA/ other assymetrical free trade that causes illegal immigration and outsourcing
full public financing of elections
end patriot act


etc


her position paper says she wants "assault weapon bans"
 
More generally, Stein's not an individualist. Libertarians are individualists. She has nothing in common with them except for superficial declarations on privacy rights and some civil issues. Concretely, her ideology is rather antithetical to libertarianism. Environmentalists believe that group rights and environmental rights should trump individual rights.

Stein: soak the rich, higher taxes, larger federal government, more gun control, pro-global warming industry, anti-private enterprise, etc.

That's your opinion, I guess. You're not a libertarian, so you don't have much place telling those that are what candidates do and do not appeal to them. Jill Stein brings civil issues, foreign policy, and social issues to the table for libertarians. And for more left-leaning libertarians like myself, many parts of her economic platform can be appealing as well. She wouldn't be my first choice, for the reasons I just mentioned, but she'd be a strong consideration.
 
Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?

Only if i don't vote Tea Party. ;)
 
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In 2012, I didn't vote for the corporate tool, Barack Obama and will not vote for the candidate of a party that supports the TP/religious right....so I voted for Jill Stein.

It looks like I'll be doing that again in 2016.
 
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