View Poll Results: Would You Consider A Vote For Jill Stein?

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  • Absolutely!

    107 34.74%
  • Only If My Preferred GOP Candidate Loses The Nomination

    42 13.64%
  • Only If My Preferred Dem Candidate Loses The Nomination

    49 15.91%
  • Strong Maybe, Leaning Yes.

    40 12.99%
  • Meh. It Could Happen.

    18 5.84%
  • I Like Her And Support Her Run, But No....

    32 10.39%
  • No Way!

    20 6.49%
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Thread: Jill Stein

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    So you were being intellectually dishonest.
    No, just amusing myself Saturday morning.
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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Odd, I would find someone who uses the word "firearm" when discussing the 2A to be too dishonest to argue with.
    that makes no sense whatsoever

    I am sorry you didn't understand the point

    firearms are a type of arm which is clearly protected from government restrictions by the 2A



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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that makes no sense whatsoever

    I am sorry you didn't understand the point

    firearms are a type of arm which is clearly protected from government restrictions by the 2A

    Now you're getting somewhere (it was you who didn't understand the point). Lots of arm(ament)s have already been restricted from legal civilian ownership and use.
    I'm simply confused how we ever elected anyone in the last 100 years if 2A rights are so important? At this point, why care NOW?

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    Re: Jill Stein

    I'm sincerely amazed by the Poll turnout. I know DP members are heavily Republican and Conservative
    and that is the antiehesis of Green politics. If the Poll numbers are correct, then we have a very large
    participation by non-members. I would like to think that is the factual case. Both for the readership and
    the participation.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I'm sincerely amazed by the Poll turnout. I know DP members are heavily Republican and Conservative
    and that is the antiehesis of Green politics. If the Poll numbers are correct, then we have a very large
    participation by non-members. I would like to think that is the factual case. Both for the readership and
    the participation.
    I suspect that most dems and republicans tend not to pay any attention to third parties, thus they probably have little interest in this topic, and likely never even looked at the thread. The name Jill Stein is probably unknown to most straight party voters.

    Most likely, the only people who looked at this thread are people who know who Jill Stein is, and thus would tend to be favorable to Jill Stein.
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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Is that a litmus issue for you?
    Yes. It's a moral issue and my most important issue, and no matter how much I like the rest of their platform, I can not and will not vote for a politician who wants to infringe further upon our gun rights.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Since Green party members are. by necessity, extremist lefties with a crazed environmentalist bent and could not be more opposite to the free market, free people principles of libertarianism, there are no circumstances under which I would offer any support for this candidate.

    To be clear, I don't like the GOP at large because they are too accommodating of unconstitutional leftist notions like the welfare state and entitlement programs. The LP is an uncompromising rightist party.

    I do not understand how anyone could waver between a libertarian and the literal opposite of a libertarian, unless they were only voting on superficial matters irrelevant to the issue stances the candidates hold.
    Last edited by JayDubya; 01-31-15 at 05:30 PM.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude


    she's a gun banner-so is Obama
    She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
    she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama


    etc
    We ALL should want to get rid of coal.
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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavendish View Post
    Her positions are not shared by most Americans, that I'll tell ya confidently.
    But then, the Green party's "eco-socialism" shouldn't be taken seriously, should it?
    The platforms of most third parties are not shared by most Americans, that's why they keep losing pathetically.
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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Since Green party members are. by necessity, extremist lefties with a crazed environmentalist bent and could not be more opposite to the free market, free people principles of libertarianism, there are no circumstances under which I would offer any support for this candidate.

    I do not understand how anyone could waver between a libertarian and the literal opposite of a libertarian, unless they were only voting on superficial matters irrelevant to the issue stances the candidates hold.
    This only poses an issue when people confuse any platform with free market fundamentalism.

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