View Poll Results: Would You Consider A Vote For Jill Stein?

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  • Absolutely!

    107 34.74%
  • Only If My Preferred GOP Candidate Loses The Nomination

    42 13.64%
  • Only If My Preferred Dem Candidate Loses The Nomination

    49 15.91%
  • Strong Maybe, Leaning Yes.

    40 12.99%
  • Meh. It Could Happen.

    18 5.84%
  • I Like Her And Support Her Run, But No....

    32 10.39%
  • No Way!

    20 6.49%
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Thread: Jill Stein

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You do realize that most of the pollution that liberals complain about is to the most part the fault of the government, right? That's why liberals are so cute. They complain about power plants polluting the environment and guess who is responsible for the current system? The answer might be embarrassing for liberals.
    It's cute that you think "power plant pollution" is the only source whereby mankind/business/govt. can (negatively) affect the environment or ecosystem.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    It's cute that you think "power plant pollution" is the only source whereby mankind/business/govt. can (negatively) affect the environment or ecosystem.
    Did I say somewhere that power plants are the only source of pollution? No.

    Why don't you look through all of China's pollution problems and then do a little compare and contrast to the US and tell me what you find. There is a reason I consider liberals idiots and this is a good example of it.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavendish View Post
    I know the currents in American libertarianism very well. "Left-libertarianism" has little currency across the country; it certainly has no influence within the Libertarian Party, and is generally called libertarian socialism, in the spirit of Chomsky, de Cleyre (and the radical feminists in general) and Proudhon (more broadly, anarcho-communism).

    "Left-libertarianism" is not, unlike libertarianism (classical liberalism), rooted in the original political ideas and thoughts of the Founders of the U.S. It's more closely related to social liberalism, (traditional European) anarchism, and socialism of various stripes than classical liberalism.
    Ok, you can read Wikipedia. That doesn't take away from my original point.

    You can't divorce economic and social issues if your goal is liberty. Greens oppose strong economic rights for the individual,
    The concept of "economic liberty" is nothing more than a glittering generality. It has no inherent meaning...it's propaganda. You might be surprised to find that not everybody sees economics from the same perspective as you do and many on the Left believe they support economic liberty too. The entire concept of socialism and other left-wing economic schools of thought, after all, is worker liberation from corporate capitalists.

    they favor grand government initiatives to combat global warming and whatnot, and they advocate practical economic revolution and a reconfiguration of our economy from a base on oil and gas to renewable sources.
    Again, you can read Wikipedia. How does that take away from anything I have said?

    How many self-described libertarians agree in the U.S?
    I don't know. I haven't taken it upon myself to travel the country and speak with every single self-described libertarian. I'll make sure to add that to the bucket list...

    The Green party's vote doesn't come from the libertarian bloc, but rather siphons off from the left-wing faction of the Democratic Party and the "alternative left" bloc of the voter-base.
    Yeah, that's their base. That doesn't mean they can't appeal to people outside of that base. Like when Democrats appeal to moderate conservatives and Republicans appeal to moderate liberals.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Well, at least she's got the name recognition thing going for her.
    I can't help it you don't research the candidates on your ballot.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Much like Gary Johnson (L), Jill Stein (G) has put her hat in the ring for a second shot at the White House in 2016. Would you consider a vote for her?
    Well, the only way we will get any kind of real change is by voting third party which is NOT backed by corporate America. I like many of her stances but honestly haven't heard enough about her educational ones. I'm going to do more research. I do like her educating the whole child viewpoint and taking big business out of education stance.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I can't help it you don't research the candidates on your ballot.
    I knew Jill Stein was the Green candidate. I was fishing and got the response I wanted so I could unleash my snappy rejoinder.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I knew Jill Stein was the Green candidate. I was fishing and got the response I wanted so I could unleash my snappy rejoinder.
    So you were being intellectually dishonest.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    I'd seriously consider it if it weren't for her positions on gun control.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    citations needed on claim #1


    as to her/Green vs Democrats(or specifically Obama)

    end corporate personhood
    holds Israel partly responsible for current conditions
    end nation building excursions
    end NAFTA/ other assymetrical free trade that causes illegal immigration and outsourcing
    full public financing of elections
    end patriot act


    etc
    Wow!
    What's not to like about that platform?

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I'd seriously consider it if it weren't for her positions on gun control.
    Is that a litmus issue for you?

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