View Poll Results: Would You Consider A Vote For Jill Stein?

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  • Absolutely!

    107 34.74%
  • Only If My Preferred GOP Candidate Loses The Nomination

    42 13.64%
  • Only If My Preferred Dem Candidate Loses The Nomination

    49 15.91%
  • Strong Maybe, Leaning Yes.

    40 12.99%
  • Meh. It Could Happen.

    18 5.84%
  • I Like Her And Support Her Run, But No....

    32 10.39%
  • No Way!

    20 6.49%
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Thread: Jill Stein

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Who is Jill Stein?
    She was the Green Party nominee in 2012 and potentially will be again in 2016.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    If this is the lady I think it is, I really liked many of he positions, except for the green parts.
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she wants a "Green" New Deal. she's pretty much the stereotype of a liberal Jewish Ivy league grad when it comes to policies
    In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.
    i'll take massive oversimplifications for $1000 , alex.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.
    Democrats are socialist-lite, Green is getting closer to all out socialism



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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    i'll take massive oversimplifications for $1000 , alex.
    where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude


    she's a gun banner-so is Obama
    She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
    she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama


    etc



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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Where Stein is superior in alot of ways economically, she is weak on gun rights and for expanding bureaucracies like the FDA/EPA/DoE/etc. Also, though I consider myself a strong environmentalist, I do feel her policies take that to the extreme in alot of ways. Furthermore, I'm for more localized education, school choice, homeschool rights, so on. Which Stein does not bring to the table.
    More generally, Stein's not an individualist. Libertarians are individualists. She has nothing in common with them except for superficial declarations on privacy rights and some civil issues. Concretely, her ideology is rather antithetical to libertarianism. Environmentalists believe that group rights and environmental rights should trump individual rights.

    Stein: soak the rich, higher taxes, larger federal government, more gun control, pro-global warming industry, anti-private enterprise, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    In a lot of ways the Green party is just a more extreme democratic party. If someone likes what the democrats are selling, but thinks they don't go far enough the green party might just be for them.
    Yep.
    It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late,
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the Saxon began to hate.

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    where do Greens and the Dem leadership actually differ other than on magnitude


    she's a gun banner-so is Obama
    She's a tax hiker-so is Obama
    she wants to get rid of coal-so does Obama


    etc

    citations needed on claim #1


    as to her/Green vs Democrats(or specifically Obama)

    end corporate personhood
    holds Israel partly responsible for current conditions
    end nation building excursions
    end NAFTA/ other assymetrical free trade that causes illegal immigration and outsourcing
    full public financing of elections
    end patriot act


    etc

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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavendish View Post
    More generally, Stein's not an individualist. Libertarians are individualists. She has nothing in common with them except for superficial declarations on privacy rights and some civil issues. Concretely, her ideology is rather antithetical to libertarianism. Environmentalists believe that group rights and environmental rights should trump individual rights.

    Stein: soak the rich, higher taxes, larger federal government, more gun control, pro-global warming industry, anti-private enterprise, etc.



    Yep.
    the biggest problem with environmentalists these days is you don't know what is their real position

    is government control of private property a means to the end (environmentalism) or is environmentalism merely a means to the end of government control of private property

    just about every movement that has as its main avenue-government control of private properly-ends up being adopted or even taken over by those whose main goal is government control

    gun banners
    animal rights extremists
    environmentalists
    "economic justice"
    universal heath care advocates



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    Re: Jill Stein

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    citations needed on claim #1


    as to her/Green vs Democrats(or specifically Obama)

    end corporate personhood
    holds Israel partly responsible for current conditions
    end nation building excursions
    end NAFTA/ other assymetrical free trade that causes illegal immigration and outsourcing
    full public financing of elections
    end patriot act


    etc

    her position paper says she wants "assault weapon bans"



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