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    As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    I just watched this documentary, unbias for either side, and it showed some pretty messed up stuff in Ukraine. It's quite clear that the Ukrainians in the far east want to be with Russia, and that Sector 5 and the rest of Ukraine want them out. Why not just give Russia that little piece of Ukraine?

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    we have our own country to rebuild, and we are not the pro bono global police force. Ukraine is an issue for the EU to address or not address.

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    we have our own country to rebuild, and we are not the pro bono global police force. Ukraine is an issue for the EU to address or not address.
    Rebuild? What are we rebuilding from? Last I checked we had the strongest economy in a decade.
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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Rebuild? What are we rebuilding from? Last I checked we had the strongest economy in a decade.
    maybe this would be a good start :

    2013 Report Card for America's Infrastructure

    also,

    America Pays More For Internet, Gets Slower Speeds, Than Other Countries

    then there's our lousy and inefficient healthcare distribution model, as well as expanding our power grid.

    there are a **** ton of things we should be doing instead of getting into a fistfight with Russia.

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I just watched this documentary, unbias for either side, and it showed some pretty messed up stuff in Ukraine. It's quite clear that the Ukrainians in the far east want to be with Russia, and that Sector 5 and the rest of Ukraine want them out. Why not just give Russia that little piece of Ukraine?
    What's the link to the documentary?

    Before watching it, I'd say that we should let Ukraine handle Ukraine's territory. If the parliament strikes a deal with Eastern Ukraine to let them secede, so be it.

    Russia however is another manner and we should join the EU in continuing sanctions, and hope that spurs action on Russia withdrawing from Ukraine or wait out Putin's tenure.
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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    What's the link to the documentary?

    Before watching it, I'd say that we should let Ukraine handle Ukraine's territory. If the parliament strikes a deal with Eastern Ukraine to let them secede, so be it.

    Russia however is another manner and we should join the EU in continuing sanctions, and hope that spurs action on Russia withdrawing from Ukraine or wait out Putin's tenure.
    No need for a link. It's the one that just got added on netflix. The only Ukraine+Syria doc on netflix.

    Messed up stuff. Russia was caught funding and arming the rebels. It was caught on tape

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    maybe this would be a good start :

    2013 Report Card for America's Infrastructure

    also,

    America Pays More For Internet, Gets Slower Speeds, Than Other Countries

    then there's our lousy and inefficient healthcare distribution model, as well as expanding our power grid.

    there are a **** ton of things we should be doing instead of getting into a fistfight with Russia.
    I'm not sure that falls into the category of "rebuilding," but you're right about our infrastructure's need for upgrades.
    Both Obama in his SOTU and Bernie Sanders did call for infrastructure investments from the Federal government.
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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Rebuild? What are we rebuilding from? Last I checked we had the strongest economy in a decade.
    LOL! Our credit rating was downgraded TWICE. No matter the fault, it still happened.

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    I'm not sure that falls into the category of "rebuilding," but you're right about our infrastructure's need for upgrades.
    Both Obama in his SOTU and Bernie Sanders did call for infrastructure investments from the Federal government.
    not to mention the damned roads. i'm up your way relatively often, and even the interstates that have just been repaved have potholes. and nationally, the bridge stuff is downright scary sometimes.

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    Re: As Russia continues to arm Ukraine Rebels, do we just let it go?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I just watched this documentary, unbias for either side, and it showed some pretty messed up stuff in Ukraine. It's quite clear that the Ukrainians in the far east want to be with Russia, and that Sector 5 and the rest of Ukraine want them out. Why not just give Russia that little piece of Ukraine?
    I say we stay out of it.The fact Russia is arming rebels is totally irrelevant considering the fact we occasionally arm different sides.I do not know about you but as far as I am concerned the lives of our troops and the tax dollars of our citizens are worth more than the Ukrainians.
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