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    Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



    This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Uhhh, no, not really. In fact not at all.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



    This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



    This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?
    None of that is true of Democrats n this country.
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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Uhhh, no, not really. In fact not at all.
    Let's see. If something waddles like a duck, likes to hang out in lakes with other ducks, quacks like a duck, has a duck bill, has a big sign around its neck that says "HI I'M A ****ING DUCK," what do you call that?

    Oh yeah, in America we're not allowed to call it a duck. Must be a goose.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    The GOP loves standards. They love standards so much, they got two of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I say that he [Trump] is the most honest guy to come down the pike in a very long while.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    None of that is true of Democrats n this country.
    Pretty much all of it is. You guys just like to move us in that direction gradually as to avoid any major backlash. But we can go point for point if you want and I can show you how the democratic party has pushed us closer and closer to each of these communist ideals over the years.

    But you don't want to go down that route. That would involve exposing your party for what it is, and it would involve facts and such.... that ain't what you guys are about. Hope and change, baby!

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Let's see. If something waddles like a duck, likes to hang out in lakes with other ducks, quacks like a duck, has a duck bill, has a big sign around its neck that says "HI I'M A ****ING DUCK," what do you call that?

    Oh yeah, in America we're not allowed to call it a duck. Must be a goose.
    Your understanding of communism and/or democrats is a few ducks short of a flock.
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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?
    Yes. You are correct. Very astute analysis. They should be giving you like the Nobel Pulitzer for Best Supporting Actor in a Documentary or something for that one. We progressives are conspiring to require all people to work so that all people can sit at home and collect welfare, so at least you are better off with the democrats.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    This is more of that empty chair stuff. Conservatives don't argue against what liberals actually do. They argue against the boogeyman in their heads. They argue against the imaginary person in the empty chair. They fill it with whatever they don't like and convince themselves that those are the things that their political opponents actually do. And we wonder why our political discourse is so absurd and our process so rabidly partisan...
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