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Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

Is the Democratic Party communist?

  • Yes, the 10 pillars of communism align with the core beliefs of the dems

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • No, they might be similar but there are minor differences

    Votes: 10 66.7%

  • Total voters
    15

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I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

Uhhh, no, not really. In fact not at all.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

None of that is true of Democrats n this country.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

Uhhh, no, not really. In fact not at all.

Let's see. If something waddles like a duck, likes to hang out in lakes with other ducks, quacks like a duck, has a duck bill, has a big sign around its neck that says "HI I'M A ****ING DUCK," what do you call that?

Oh yeah, in America we're not allowed to call it a duck. Must be a goose.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

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Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

None of that is true of Democrats n this country.

Pretty much all of it is. You guys just like to move us in that direction gradually as to avoid any major backlash. But we can go point for point if you want and I can show you how the democratic party has pushed us closer and closer to each of these communist ideals over the years.

But you don't want to go down that route. That would involve exposing your party for what it is, and it would involve facts and such.... that ain't what you guys are about. Hope and change, baby!
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

Let's see. If something waddles like a duck, likes to hang out in lakes with other ducks, quacks like a duck, has a duck bill, has a big sign around its neck that says "HI I'M A ****ING DUCK," what do you call that?

Oh yeah, in America we're not allowed to call it a duck. Must be a goose.
Your understanding of communism and/or democrats is a few ducks short of a flock.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

Yes. You are correct. Very astute analysis. They should be giving you like the Nobel Pulitzer for Best Supporting Actor in a Documentary or something for that one. We progressives are conspiring to require all people to work so that all people can sit at home and collect welfare, so at least you are better off with the democrats.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

This is more of that empty chair stuff. Conservatives don't argue against what liberals actually do. They argue against the boogeyman in their heads. They argue against the imaginary person in the empty chair. They fill it with whatever they don't like and convince themselves that those are the things that their political opponents actually do. And we wonder why our political discourse is so absurd and our process so rabidly partisan...
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

This is more of that empty chair stuff. Conservatives don't argue against what liberals actually do. They argue against the boogeyman in their heads. They argue against the imaginary person in the empty chair. They fill it with whatever they don't like and convince themselves that those are the things that their political opponents actually do. And we wonder why our political discourse is so absurd and our process so rabidly partisan...

So are you denying that the democratic party is pushing us closer and closer to the 10 pillars of communism as outlined in the OP? Cause it sure seems like they are to me. Sometimes they take baby steps in that direction. Other times it's big leaps. But it's always the same direction...
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

Sssshhhh! It's a secret!




(snicker!)
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I wish.....but not even close.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

So are you denying that the democratic party is pushing us closer and closer to the 10 pillars of communism as outlined in the OP? Cause it sure seems like they are to me. Sometimes they take baby steps in that direction. Other times it's big leaps. But it's always the same direction...

Probably because you don't live in reality and listen way too much to right-wing radio propaganda.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech.
What do you think,
is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?



I took a quick look at your poll.

It sucks and I won't be voting. :roll:
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

I wish.....but not even close.

So you wish the dems were openly communist, so you could vote for them? But I'm guessing you vote for them anyway, because you know that they'll push us at least in that direction.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

So far the three people who have responded negatively to my OP: 1 Canadian, 1 European, and 1 Mexican from Los Angeles.

Telling. Very telling.

Where are all the bread and butter Americans?
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

It certainly has Marxist elements in its ranks, and it does tend to put a lot of faith in a number of Marxist ideological principles as well.

They're watered down, admittedly. However, they are there.
 
Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

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I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

The polls are getting to be a little passive aggressive. Now there's not even a pretense that it's a real poll:

Which is correct?
1. You are a serial murderer.
2. There are similarities, but you are not actually a serial murderer.
 
I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?

No it couldn't. There's nothing in that list that either major American party would approve of. The idea that the President of the USA is a communist is so ludicrous that only a political moron (present company excluded) could entertain it. It would take a complete simpleton (present company excluded) to even think the idea was worth considering. Whoever taught you to say this did you no favours.
 
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