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Thread: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    So far the three people who have responded negatively to my OP: 1 Canadian, 1 European, and 1 Mexican from Los Angeles.

    Telling. Very telling.

    Where are all the bread and butter Americans?

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    It certainly has Marxist elements in its ranks, and it does tend to put a lot of faith in a number of Marxist ideological principles as well.

    They're watered down, admittedly. However, they are there.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



    This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?
    The polls are getting to be a little passive aggressive. Now there's not even a pretense that it's a real poll:

    Which is correct?
    1. You are a serial murderer.
    2. There are similarities, but you are not actually a serial murderer.
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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.



    This list could have come right out of President Obama's state of the union speech. What do you think, is the modern Democratic Party very closely aligned with the core beliefs of communism or what?
    No it couldn't. There's nothing in that list that either major American party would approve of. The idea that the President of the USA is a communist is so ludicrous that only a political moron (present company excluded) could entertain it. It would take a complete simpleton (present company excluded) to even think the idea was worth considering. Whoever taught you to say this did you no favours.
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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    The polls are getting to be a little passive aggressive. Now there's not even a pretense that it's a real poll:

    Which is correct?
    1. You are a serial murderer.
    2. There are similarities, but you are not actually a serial murderer.
    Ha... I've been called a lot of things in my day, some of them deserving. "Passive aggressive" is a first.

    What you call passive aggressive, I call the American Way. Give people the illusion of a choice.

    I call it the farce of American democracy. On the left, you have Moron A. On the right, you have Moron B. When the country inevitably goes to ****, they'll blame you.... after all, you voted for the moron.

    And yes, I'm calling Barack Obama a moron.

    And this next election: Jeb Bush - moron. Mitt Romney - moron. Hillary Clinton - moron. Elizabeth Warren - moron. Nothing but a bunch of bad choices. The American definition of choice. God bless America.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    No it couldn't. There's nothing in that list that either major American party would approve of. The idea that the President of the USA is a communist is so ludicrous that only a political moron (present company excluded) could entertain it. It would take a complete simpleton (present company excluded) to even think the idea was worth considering. Whoever taught you to say this did you no favours.
    Whoever called me passive aggressive (above)..... THIS is textbook passive aggressiveness. Nonetheless, I shall fight the good fight, I shall win this argument. I shall fight on the seas and oceans. I shall defend this island, whatever the cost may be.

    Look bud, which party gave us the department of land management (point 1)? Which party gave us the progressive income tax (point 2)? Which party gave us the inheritance tax (point 3)? Which party gave us the FED (point 5)? Which party gave us PBS, and owns the liberal media (point 6)?

    And on and on we go.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    [QUOTE=Peter Grimm;1064255937]
    Don't be scared. McCarthy is long gone.[
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    Scared of what or who?

    Fill us in. What threat are you to any law abiding American war veteran?

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?[W:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I present you the 10 pillars of communism, as outlined by Karl Marx himself in The Communist Manifesto. As you can see, these are pretty much the talking points of the Democratic Party in the United States today.


    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
    I stopped here, since this is wrong on an almost astral level. Are you really going to sit there and try to claim that the Democratic Party is trying to abolish private property?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is the Democratic Party Marxist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Let's see. If something waddles like a duck, likes to hang out in lakes with other ducks, quacks like a duck, has a duck bill, has a big sign around its neck that says "HI I'M A ****ING DUCK," what do you call that?

    Oh yeah, in America we're not allowed to call it a duck. Must be a goose.
    I would call it a duck if it wasn't BARKING. Seriously, there's MAYBE two things on your little list you can reasonably claim are actual Democratic Party policy points.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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