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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I was far too young when Goldwater ran to support him or vote for him, but from what I know about him, he'd be the ideal candidate for me today.
    I don't know that he'd be ideal but he'd certainly be head and shoulders above anyone from any party that we have to pick from today.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't know that he'd be ideal but he'd certainly be head and shoulders above anyone from any party that we have to pick from today.
    That's setting the bar low comparing him to today's politicians, 99.99% of whom are abysmal.

    Generally speaking, his views are in line with mine. Jon Huntsman is the closest thing I've seen in recent years to Goldwater. He'd never get the nomination today. The far religious wing would oppose him.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Wow, you assume the best in people, don't you? lol

    I'm asking to be associated with Republicans, not against them.

    If I'm only a little bit fiscally conservative (that's the only kind of conservative), yet I'm liberal on many instances, but fit the definition of actual Republicanism (political tests put me a Center-Right), why is my request not "fitting" to you?

    I'm literally a centrist who leans Republican, not conservative. In fact, I'm more liberal than conservative.

    It's attitudes like yours that really make me wonder....Best of luck with all of your future pessimism
    But what is 'liberal' in modern day vernacular? Is being pro gay marriage, for instance, 'liberal' or 'progressive', which in modern day vernacular would mean somebody wants a powerful government to order something like that?

    Or is it true liberty that the most staunch conservative (as defined in modern day vernacular) would favor along with a conviction that the government should not interfere in that one way or the other?

    This is where the lines get really blurred when we try to pigeonhole a conviction about something as 'liberal' or 'conservative' or 'left' or 'right' or whatever.

    When I describe myself as a 'classical liberal', it is strictly defined by me as what I think the proper role of government should be and says nothing about what I believe about religion, abortion, welfare, gay rights, human rights, etc.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I know you've changed your lean a few times in the last year and now that I think about it, you're really smart for doing it. I should probably do the same thing. I'm sick of the idiotic posts from posters who think they know my "lean" - yesterday I was called a progressive by one poster, a leftist by another poster, and a rabid right winger by a 3rd poster.

    Posters tend to get too wrapped up in what they believe your "lean" is based on the specific post that is being quoted and responded to. That's why lean is irrelevant. Unless a poster is a die hard leaner (uber Liberal or ultra Conservative), you can usually find other posts from the poster on the same day that don't feat neatly and nicely into that little "Liberal" or "Conservative" box.
    It's even more frustrating when you feel compelled to give someone's post a "like" when they're publicly listed as being directly opposed to your ideology. How dare they step outside my stereotype of their views?!
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry no, i am for smaller government, reduced to the confines of the constitution.
    Do you currently feel our government is fulfilling all its duties adequately? If you don't, you're for bigger government.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's even more frustrating when you feel compelled to give someone's post a "like" when they're publicly listed as being directly opposed to your ideology. How dare they step outside my stereotype of their views?!
    Change your view to "Radical Rabid Liberal" so I can give your damn post a like.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Fair enough. Except the liberals believe that because mine says "slightly conservative", that I'm some Bush loving, god fearing, anti- gay commenter.

    When the only thing i'm really conservative on is 2 aspects of our economy.
    Well ya ain't to fond of Obama. Perhaps those comments on the Iran negotiations put a nail in that coffin.
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    yesterday I was called a progressive by one poster, a leftist by another poster, and a rabid right winger by a 3rd poster.
    Reminds me of an anecdote a friend told me a few months back - "If you get called a socialist, an anarchist, a liberal, and a conservative, all in the same day, you might be a Libertarian."
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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Do you currently feel our government is fulfilling all its duties adequately? If you don't, you're for bigger government.
    our government is doing many things it was never intended to do.

    anything not in article 1 section 8 is not a power of the federal government, plain and simple.

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    Re: Debate Politics change in political lean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Reminds me of an anecdote a friend told me a few months back - "If you get called a socialist, an anarchist, a liberal, and a conservative, all in the same day, you might be a Libertarian."
    That is classic! Love it!
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