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Thread: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202013.

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    Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202013.

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/20...nscript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)

    Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?
    Did the USA plan a Civil War?
    Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?
    Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?
    Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/20...nscript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?Did the USA plan a Civil War?Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
    What's up with that link Dave?

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/20...nscript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?Did the USA plan a Civil War?Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
    This is some really intense divination. A prediction nearly 20,000 years in the future? Damn.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    This is some really intense divination. A prediction nearly 20,000 years in the future? Damn.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What's up with that link Dave?
    Thanks, I fixed the link.

    This was a speech delivered to the Ukraine Parliament on 11/20/2013, before Maidan.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The Vineyard of the Saker

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/20...nscript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)

    Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?
    Did the USA plan a Civil War?
    Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?
    Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?
    Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
    OMG!!! WOW!!!!

    You sure that is bona fide? If it is, that is dynamite!

    WOW!!!

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    The link is to a blog, and I can't seem to find the info being copied in the OP.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The Vineyard of the Saker

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/20...nscript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)

    Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?
    Did the USA plan a Civil War?
    Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?
    Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?
    Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
    Even if Obama did ignite this civil war, plan it, and help execute it...to the sheep it's just a "fake scandal".

    With that said though, I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Obama was behind this. Just Putin's tears.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Even if Obama did ignite this civil war, plan it, and help execute it...to the sheep it's just a "fake scandal".

    With that said though, I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Obama was behind this. Just Putin's tears.
    What sort of evidence would be convincing to you? Don't expect him to come out and admit it. I don't think they directly planned a civil war. I think it is indeed possible that they thought out the possibility that US actions in Ukraine could lead to a civil war and therefore made preparations for it. They would be rather incompetent if they left behind a smoking gun, and that in itself would be very disturbing.

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    Re: Must Watch: Ukranian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 11/202

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    OMG!!! WOW!!!!

    You sure that is bona fide? If it is, that is dynamite!

    WOW!!!
    It sure looked legitimate to me. It was about 3-4 months before Maidan and revealed
    the whole plot by the USA operating out of the Embassy. Nobody will pay any attention
    to it and the MSM perception management people will make sure it doesn't get air time
    in the USA.

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