View Poll Results: Would You Consider Voting For Gov. Gary Johnson?

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  • Absolutely!!

    14 13.21%
  • Yes, But Only If My Preferred GOP Candidate Loses.

    4 3.77%
  • Yes, But Only If My Preferred Dem Candidate Loses.

    2 1.89%
  • Strong Maybe, Leaning Yes.

    3 2.83%
  • Meh. It Could Happen. Not Making Any Promises Though.

    6 5.66%
  • I Like Him And Support His Run, But No...

    13 12.26%
  • No Way.

    64 60.38%
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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is the reason we are where we are today.


    And 3rd parties are not going to bring us back from where we are. Not until they figure out how to turn hype into enough votes to at least scare a mainstream nominee.

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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    More like concerned that "bleh" will lose and "worse" will win, if they don't.
    There have been times that I felt so strongly against one candidate that I voted for the other. The recent Iowa Senate race is a perfect example. Politically, I detest Bruce Braley, so I voted for Joni Ernst, even though Ernst didn't thrill me in the least either. In this case keeping Braley out was more important to me.

    I could have voted Libertarian, but that guy died in a small plane crash a month before the election (for real). Talk about nowhere to go!
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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    And 3rd parties are not going to bring us back from where we are. Not until they figure out how to turn hype into enough votes to at least scare a mainstream nominee.


    we have to start somewhere. We now have a ruling elite who really don't govern much differently from each other as in bailouts for giant corporations, tax breaks for pet corporations (GE, NFL, GM, etc), who really don't care for you other than to see how much power they can bleed from you while eroding your constitutional rights.
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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    we have to start somewhere. We now have a ruling elite who really don't govern much differently from each other as in bailouts for giant corporations, tax breaks for pet corporations (GE, NFL, GM, etc), who really don't care for you other than to see how much power they can bleed from you while eroding your constitutional rights.

    If you could mobilize "The Great Unwashed", the nearly 50% who could vote but don't bother and often aren't even registered, you could win elections.


    But you haven't found the key to that door, and the more extreme planks of the Libertarian Party tend to turn off most Dems and Repubs as too far out, so at this point it is a pipe dream.

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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If you could mobilize "The Great Unwashed", the nearly 50% who could vote but don't bother and often aren't even registered, you could win elections.


    But you haven't found the key to that door, and the more extreme planks of the Libertarian Party tend to turn off most Dems and Repubs as too far out, so at this point it is a pipe dream.


    The only "key" to that door is to kill thier television and other hand held i-devices.... As long as their is some housewife making a fool of herself on tv, no one will care.



    As for the extreme planks? doesn't the democrat and republican party have thier own extremes? does any party get 100% of what they want? Do you or I if we become a member of a party, do we have to believe in all the facets or follow the basic principles?


    Thaat may be another discussion, but to me it seems, that if there is a "Disappearing middle class" as some claim, that time may come.
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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The only "key" to that door is to kill thier television and other hand held i-devices.... As long as their is some housewife making a fool of herself on tv, no one will care.



    As for the extreme planks? doesn't the democrat and republican party have thier own extremes? does any party get 100% of what they want? Do you or I if we become a member of a party, do we have to believe in all the facets or follow the basic principles?


    Thaat may be another discussion, but to me it seems, that if there is a "Disappearing middle class" as some claim, that time may come.



    Personally I think we're screwed, and I'm just fiddling while Rome burns.

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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If you could mobilize "The Great Unwashed", the nearly 50% who could vote but don't bother and often aren't even registered, you could win elections.

    But you haven't found the key to that door, and the more extreme planks of the Libertarian Party tend to turn off most Dems and Repubs as too far out, so at this point it is a pipe dream.
    If the goal is to effect change in political behavior, I don't think you even need to harp on third parties as being the panacea. I believe that if the voters would simply stop reflexively re-electing the same schmucks all the time that we'd see change. If we could get the re-election rate down from 90% to even 50%... in other words make them know that their lifetime gig isn't guaranteed at all... we'd see huge change in how they treat us, because we'd suddenly become important and not to be taken for granted.
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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If the goal is to effect change in political behavior, I don't think you even need to harp on third parties as being the panacea. I believe that if the voters would simply stop reflexively re-electing the same schmucks all the time that we'd see change. If we could get the re-election rate down from 90% to even 50%... in other words make them know that their lifetime gig isn't guaranteed at all... we'd see huge change in how they treat us, because we'd suddenly become important and not to be taken for granted.

    My understanding is this election just past was one of the biggest Congressional turnovers in living memory... yet it was probably less than 20%, despite many millions of disgruntled people. I've been thru "re-elect NOBODY" campaigns before where 95% of incumbents were re-elected regardless.


    Way I figure, it is going to take something BIG to disrupt the status-quo, something that really shakes the American people to the core and kicks our entire society in the pants, like a total economic collapse or losing a war so badly we have to beg for a peace treaty.... but all things considered, I figure the American People will, when that happens, jump the entirely wrong way...

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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Gary Johnson has tossed his hat in the ring for 2016 as a Libertarian Party candidate. Thoughts?
    I voted for him in '12. Let's see what '16 brings.


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    Re: Gary Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Gary Johnson has tossed his hat in the ring for 2016 as a Libertarian Party candidate. Thoughts?
    Gary Johnson was my governor and, while certainly not a close acquaintance, I know him personally. He is straight forward, honest, and for the most part embraces commendable values and has his head on straight. He was a good governor for New Mexico except that, in my opinion, he used dreadful judgment in choosing a cabinet/team to work with him.

    On the plus side, he is pro life but not fanatically so, pro business, pro states rights, pro balanced budget, pro maximum liberty, and getting the federal government out of education.

    On the negative side he is almost to the libertarian right of Ron Paul in his opposition to any form of foreign entanglements, he is pretty much pro live and let live as far as illegal immigration is concerned, he is almost fanatical in his opposition to any federal or state control over drug use, and, like Ron Paul, he exhibits a kind of naivete in recognizing dangers of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism or others who would very much like to hurt us.

    From a pure aesthetic perspective that will raise eyebrows and possibly hurt him in some camps, he and his wife are separated--not sure if there has been a divorce--and, while he was raised Christian, he is not active with any religious group and whether he in fact considers himself a Christian is somewhat in question.

    I would vote for Gary over anybody the Democrats will likely put up and would prefer him over some the GOP could nominate. But he is by no means even among the top prospective candidates I would like to see on the ballot.
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