View Poll Results: Present end date for deal- July 2015- Negotiations fail?

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  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -No

    5 5.62%
  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -Yes

    81 91.01%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- Yes

    5 5.62%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- No

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained –Yes

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained -No

    0 0%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – Yes

    1 1.12%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – No

    57 64.04%
  • If War- Air –Sea only –No assets on the ground

    80 89.89%
  • If War–All capability

    3 3.37%
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Thread: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Most they can do is 2 air attacks.
    Some say otherwise. Again, if Iran gets their Nuke.....the Saud says they will have theirs. In which I think the Saud already has things ready to go and set up with Pakistan. I wouldn't put it past the Pakistani to have a couple of planes loaded and ready to go.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Some say otherwise. Again, if Iran gets their Nuke.....the Saud says they will have theirs. In which I think the Saud already has things ready to go and set up with Pakistan. I wouldn't put it past the Pakistani to have a couple of planes loaded and ready to go.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    And here is the problem with hardliners on both side.
    The agreement for negotiations calls for no new sanctions is one condition.
    Both sides have hardliners that in my opinion, want the negotiations to fail.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/wo...=top-news&_r=0

    It has become an international game of chicken, with each country taunting the other to violate the terms of a 2013 pact that established the conditions under which the nuclear talks would take place.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And here is the problem with hardliners on both side.
    The agreement for negotiations calls for no new sanctions is one condition.
    Both sides have hardliners that in my opinion, want the negotiations to fail.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/wo...=top-news&_r=0

    It has become an international game of chicken, with each country taunting the other to violate the terms of a 2013 pact that established the conditions under which the nuclear talks would take place.
    Remind us what was the timeframe of the original 2013 pact.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And here is the problem with hardliners on both side.
    The agreement for negotiations calls for no new sanctions is one condition.
    Both sides have hardliners that in my opinion, want the negotiations to fail.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/wo...=top-news&_r=0

    It has become an international game of chicken, with each country taunting the other to violate the terms of a 2013 pact that established the conditions under which the nuclear talks would take place.


    Yep and Iran sure likes to taunt.....even when they get around sanctions.




    Iran Is Ditching The Dollar In Foreign Trade.....

    Iran is no longer using the US dollar in foreign-trade transactions and is replacing it with other currencies, the deputy governor at the Iranian Central Bank Gholami Kamyab said, according to Sputnik News. "In trade exchanges with the foreign countries, Iran uses other currencies including Chinese yuan, euro, Turkish lira, Russian ruble, and South Korean won," Kamyab reportedly said. He also reportedly added that Iran was considering bilateral currency-swap agreements, which would allow partners to exchange one foreign currency for the equivalent in the other currency. He did not explicitly name partners, however.

    Although nuclear sanctions imposed on Iran over the years are meant to deter the state from building up its nuclear-arms program, they could also be the catalyst that is pushing Iran to look for new economic partners. As Ian Bremmer noted, the glaring drawback of using coercive sanctions (and other weaponizations of finance) is that the targeted countries can and will increasingly diversify away from the dollar.

    Turkey ran an extensive gas-for-gold scheme with Iran, which ran from about March 2012 to fall 2013 and yielded Iran more than $13 billion amid crippling sanctions implemented by the US over the country's perceived nuclear program. "It's a huge amount of money, Jonathan Schanzer, a former terrorism-finance analyst at the US Department of the Treasury, told Business Insider last year. "You can't ignore the fact that the Turks helped Iran with a massive sanctions-busting scheme." ....snip~

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iran-d...134700360.html

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Remind us what was the timeframe of the original 2013 pact.
    Did you think such a complex set of negotiations would be settled quickly- Hardliners on each side.
    Iran no matter what has the tech to build a bomb.
    Now why do the want the bomb?
    Riddle me that please.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Did you think such a complex set of negotiations would be settled quickly- Hardliners on each side.
    Iran no matter what has the tech to build a bomb.
    Now why do the want the bomb?
    Riddle me that please.

    Please answer the question.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Please answer the question.
    June 2014?
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    June 2014?
    So it would seem to some that we are already well beyond the period we promised to hold off on new sanctions. Sanctions are what brought Iran to the table, not sure why a provision that says if we don't get a deal there will be more sanctions.

    It would appear that the folks against new sanctions are the ones who want the talks to fail.

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